- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:47:43 +0900
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, John Foliot <foliot@wats.ca>, steve@w3.org, timbl@w3.org, jbrewer@w3.org, "'wai-ig list'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, wai-xtech@w3.org, public-html@w3.org, www-html@w3.org
Hi,
Just for the record, I have followed the debate. Usually when I feel
that someone is going too far, I send a private email to the person
asking gently to be more considerate for other people. It is first a
question of being polite and respectful, and acknowledge that the
other person might feel uncomfortable with the way we are expressing
ourselves.
I made a post in this sense a few months ago related to [attitude][1]
I would like that people in the HTML WG be very careful with *any
public* records. It means IRC logs, twitter messages, weblog posts
and mailing lists. These are accessible to everyone now and in the
future. The search engines on the Web and even the log records are
all about destroying the context of an information and then make it
very hard to convey the right tone.
Le 31 juil. 2007 à 04:28, Sam Ruby a écrit :
> What surprised me, however, is the vitriol of the debate. I felt I
> was deified and painted as a religious zealot. It had a chilling
> effect on my participation. What effect did it have on me? Well,
> I have an equally surgical proposal that I would like to discuss at
> some point regarding namespaces. But I've held back in the hopes
> that at some point I would have enough emotional bandwidth to
> sustain the predictable assault.
This feeling of insecurity in the discussion has been reported a few
times to me. Some people decided to leave the HTML WG because of
this. It is not good because it makes the group more homogeneous in
some ways, and then remove part of the diversity which help to create
interesting work. It can happen from many groups or persons,
depending on the time and the circumstances of the discussion. Irony,
humor, and frustrations are very difficult to handle in large
multicultural (work, nationality, age, etc.) groups.
To *everyone* in people participating to this work, I would like just
to remind a simple thing.
Remember the human [2]
[1]: http://www.w3.org/QA/2007/06/html5-call-to-web-
professionals#attitude
[2]: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
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Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/
W3C Conformance Manager, QA Activity Lead
QA Weblog - http://www.w3.org/QA/
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