- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:14:39 -0400
- To: Aaron Leventhal <aaronleventhal@moonset.net>, dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org
- Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org
aaron -- i think the best feedback would from the implementors who participated the impact of user testing upon their approach to the problem: Ben Maurer -- reCAPTCHA point-person (Carnigie Mellon University) Colin McMillen -- reCAPTCHA engineer Chris Blouch -- AOL implementor Don Evans - AOL Joshue O Connor (CFIT) -- provided user testing footage and feedback and i'd talk to norman walsh, as his solution to the bot versus person question is based on simple computations, rather than pictures (yes, there are definite problems with "what comprises a 'simple' computation?: what if implementors substituted pictures of numbers and operands to provide a false sense of double-security) as for an executive summary one really must follow the threads on wai-xtech to gain a complete picture of the CAPTCHA and reCAPTCHA discussions and implementations, but here are the "highlights" gregory. the initial major problems outlined with reCAPTCHA and reCAPTCHA's approach to rectify them are both in a single post: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0013.html reCAPTCHA's code changes and further issues: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0047.html problems with focus issues are addressed in: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0045.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0082.html developers discussion of focus issues: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0046.html CAPTCHA Accessibility: 1 issue or 2? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0066.html Joshue O Connor's test results (actual footage available on demand) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0100.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Aaron Leventhal <aaronleventhal@moonset.net> To: dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:27:55 -0400 Subject: Re: CAPTCHA implementors' thread on wai-xtech > Gregory, how about the executive summary? What should > Mozillazine use? > > Not that I'm not interested, but we need to fix as many bugs as > we can before Firefox ships. > > - Aaron > > Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote: > > aloha, aaron! > > > > there is an extensive thread on CAPTCHA and alternatives, which includes > > the implementors of reCAPTCHA and other developers searching for a > > CAPTCHA alternative on the wai-xtech list at w3c > > > > you can peruse the archive by thread > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/thread.html > > > > or use the following as jumping-off points: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0009.html > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0013.html > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0029.html > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0083.html > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0081.html > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0097.html > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007Jul/0112.html > > > > note that josh o connor (of CFIT) recorded individuals attempting > > to fill out CAPTCHAs on a variety of platforms with a variety of > > ATs which the developers involved in the conversation found > > extremely useful -- perhaps he can provide more fodder for the > > issue at YouTube (which is why i have carbon copied him on this) > > > > gregory. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, > > as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them > > with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net > > Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > > From: Aaron Leventhal <aaronleventhal@moonset.net> > > To: dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org > > Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:23:47 -0400 > > Subject: ReCAPTCHA [was Re: Captchas shutting out blind users from social > > networking sites] > > > >> Anyone tried using ReCAPTCHA? Any known problems with it? > >> http://recaptcha.net/whyrecaptcha.html > >> > >> - Aaron > >> > >> Aaron Leventhal wrote: > >>> Actually, are there free audio captcha implementations available > > anywhere? > >>> - Aaron > >>> > >>> Aaron Leventhal wrote: > >>>> The Mozillazine forums also have this problem: > >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jrgMlufa7w > >>>> > >>>> Solutions are offered in the informative video. > >>>> > >>>> - Aaron > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dev-accessibility mailing list > >> dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org > >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-accessibility > > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > dev-accessibility mailing list > dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-accessibility ------- End of Original Message -------
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