Re: request for sample page structure analyses

Dave, As I understand them, pop ups and fly outs are not there till acted 
upon so in esence, they are scripts.  Can we talk about scripts and their 
targeting mechanisms here?

Johnnie Apple Seed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pawson, David" <David.Pawson@rnib.org.uk>
To: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>; 
<wai-xtech@w3.org>
Cc: <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: request for sample page structure analyses





    -----Original Message-----
    From: david poehlman


    I was trying to get at the left hand and right hand side
    might be considered dictionary items.  What I am asking
    about the number of blocks is if they are each assigned a
    number, what is the corellary and the meaning?
I am not proposing to add blocks to the dictionary.
The were an alternative to a screen capture with text superimposed.



    Interesting on pop ups and fly outs.  call them pop ups and
    fly outs I guess.

dp. I was hoping that the semantic behind these would be an improvment?
E.g. they are still navigation, if the items in the list which flies out
are links? Hence I'd prefer xxx navigation, with a 'how' of flyout list?



    On daisy format, I was refering to a discussion that took
    place last week I think on the call where we were
    compairing pages or sites to daisy books.  I think we can
    fit a lot of that here but we'd need visual descriptors as
    well as daisy is more serial in nature than the screen is.

dp. OK, I have never liked the daisy semantics, and don't believe
they reflect the visual presentation of a page, that's why I haven't
used them Dave.


    On nav, the three levels you site can be broken down into
    just nav.  If I see nav here, nav there and nav somewhere
    else, it's still nav.  Perhaps we can describe types of nav
    like site nav, page nav, special nave meaning perhaps a
    list of other sites, maybe ref nav.

dp. Agreed on navigation with subclassing. I'm more reluctant
to get into what type of navigation, e.g. page, site, special
without justifying the need for it?
 We thought that a nominal hierarchy might be helpful, that's
why we categorised them.


    A substitute for content is tricky because we need to more
    closely define what content is in this instance.  It could
    be labeled main content or something like that so as to
    indicate that we can throw the rest of the page away.

dp. I'm quite happy with main content, if that paints a picture for others.
I think we know which piece of a page we are talking about with that?
Lets see what others think.

regards DaveP

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