- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:53:35 -0600
- To: "'Kynn Bartlett'" <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <charles@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Heather Swayne'" <hswayne@microsoft.com>, "'WAI Cross-group list'" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Ooooooooo This gets right to the core of our soft spot. There will ALWAYs be someone who can't use something.. (so everything is P1?) And we can't define what is "harder enough" to push a P3 to a P2. SO I am afraid that we will have to admit that what we do is get a group of talented and informed people together and do our best to define what is reasonable to put into categories 1 2 and 3. we can define these all we want. But we will not strictly follow those guidelines. In the end we will call them. And our call will be questioned or ratified. And that will be the guidelines or 'recommendation". Have to admit it........ Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Human Factors Depts of Ind. and Biomed. Engr. - U of Wis. Director - Trace R & D Center Gv@trace.wisc.edu, http://trace.wisc.edu/ FAX 608/262-8848 For a list of our listserves send "lists" to listproc@trace.wisc.edu -----Original Message----- From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kynn Bartlett Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 1:31 PM To: Charles McCathieNevile Cc: Heather Swayne; WAI Cross-group list Subject: RE: Priorities - a proposal At 11:01 AM 3/20/2001 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote: >This stuff relates to the standard use in internet specifications of the >terms MUST, SHOULD, and MAY, as defined by RFC 2119 >http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt > >The point is what is the difference between "the user has no access" and "the >user effectively has no access"? There are people who can read RTF source and >find what is going on. It also raises the question of "which users" or "how many" and "what must they be using"? If you can find a case in which one person -- with multiple disabilities and unusual hardware/software -- is unable to access something, does that make it a P1? Or not? E.g., if something is accessible to blind users, and deaf users, and cognitively impaired users, and limited dexterity users -- but not to a blind, deaf, limited dexterity, cognitively-impaired user who isn't running a braille terminal and has no pointer device -- is that "inaccessible" according to P1 priorities? If something takes one click for a non-disabled user, but requires 5 clicks for a blind user, is that "impossible"? What about 10 clicks? What about 25? What about 100? What if someone doesn't have a web browser? What if someone doesn't have a web browser we -like-? --Kynn Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com> Technical Developer Liaison Reef North America Tel +1 949-567-7006 ________________________________________ ACCESSIBILITY IS DYNAMIC. TAKE CONTROL. ________________________________________ http://www.reef.com
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