Re: COGA notes regarding EO video scripts

Thank you for the responses, Shadi! I've added notes to the two issues.
Hopefully they are helpful.



On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 3:06 AM Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Rain,
>
> Many thanks for your thorough review and thoughtful comments! Please
> find some responses inline:
>
>
> On 14/06/2021 20:46, Bakken, Brent wrote:
> > Hi Jeanne,
> >
> > Yes, please forward to Shadi and me. Thanks for following through on
> this.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > *From:*Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
> > *Sent:* Monday, June 14, 2021 1:15 PM
> > *To:* Bakken, Brent <Brent.Bakken@Pearson.com>
> > *Subject:* Fwd: COGA notes regarding EO video scripts
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > I got some feedback on the scripts from a new Silver participant who is
> > from COGA.  She missed the survey date so I am forwarding it to you
> > directly.
> >
> > jeanne
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >
> > *Subject: *
> >
> >
> >
> > COGA notes regarding EO video scripts
> >
> > *Date: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:53:08 -0700
> >
> > *From: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com> <mailto:rainb@google.com>
> >
> > *To: *
> >
> >
> >
> > McSorley, Jan <jan.mcsorley@pearson.com>
> > <mailto:jan.mcsorley@pearson.com>, Jeanne Spellman
> > <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com> <mailto:
> jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
> >
> > *CC: *
> >
> >
> >
> > Lisa Seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
> >
> > Hello Jan and Jeanne,
> >
> > As promised, I took a look at the scripts this weekend. This is
> > incredible work!
> >
> > A couple of thoughts if there is a possibility of making changes even
> > though this feedback is late:
> >
> >   * SC 2.1.2 No keyboard trap:
> >     https://wai-wcag-videos.netlify.app/sc-2.1.2/
> >     <
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/wai-wcag-videos.netlify.app/sc-2.1.2/__;!!LtJ5xwj-!Y0rHO1iuJdrXXtfFUkGWtX8uEv3Q3JkPMwxbgqgin1gknQo2ZKBj-lClSe3317AyP-c$
> >
> >
> >       o The script is excellent, except that date pickers themselves can
> >         be some of the most problematic interaction patterns from a
> >         cognitive perspective. I would like to suggest considering a
> >         different interaction pattern that is much simpler, such as a
> >         Yes/No dialog that is asking the user to confirm something.
> >       o If you choose to continue with the date picker as the pattern,
> >         then it would be a good idea for us to be involved in how those
> >         visuals are constructed and what date picker pattern is
> >         selected, as well as the context of the page in which it is
> >         presented.
>
> The sub-group opened issue #65 on this script and welcomes your input:
>   - https://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-videos/issues/65
>
>
> >   * SC 2.1.3 Keyboard (no exceptions):
> >     https://wai-wcag-videos.netlify.app/sc-2.1.3/
> >     <
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/wai-wcag-videos.netlify.app/sc-2.1.3/__;!!LtJ5xwj-!Y0rHO1iuJdrXXtfFUkGWtX8uEv3Q3JkPMwxbgqgin1gknQo2ZKBj-lClSe33aBqfykI$
> >
> >
> >       o There is a missed opportunity here that might be considered to
> >         bring speech difficulties into this story, as well. If Niando
> >         has slightly slurred speech and one of the coordinates includes
> >         the numbers 13, 14, or 15, the video could show the speech
> >         recognition software misunderstanding Niando and moving her
> >         selection up or down one to the other next number. Niando can
> >         then follow up with "up one" or "down one" to correct the error.
>
>
> The sub-group prefers to limit the focus of the videos to the minimum
> needed to understand the requirement. This suggestion seems to expand
> the scope to discuss challenges of speech recognition rather than keep
> the focus on the requirement (no exception to use of keyboard). Other
> videos focusing specifically on assistive technologies are in planning.
>
> The sub-group opened issue #66 on this script and welcomes your input:
>   - https://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-videos/issues/66
>
>
> >   * SC 1.3.4 Orientation:
> >     https://deploy-preview-57--wai-wcag-videos.netlify.app/sc-1.3.4/
> >     <
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/deploy-preview-57--wai-wcag-videos.netlify.app/sc-1.3.4/__;!!LtJ5xwj-!Y0rHO1iuJdrXXtfFUkGWtX8uEv3Q3JkPMwxbgqgin1gknQo2ZKBj-lClSe331mP9GwY$
> >
> >
> >       o If possible, it would be neat to add an additional visual moment
> >         to this script where the app gives Jan a "helpful" dialog that
> >         says "this app works best in portrait mode, please adjust your
> >         phone" or some-such. This gives the chance to really empathize
> >         with how annoying it is for something to be "helping" in a way
> >         that is not possible for the individual.
>
> The sub-group discussed this idea but felt it would need to be clear
> both visually and in audio, and would make the script longer and more
> complex. We prefer to keep the script as focused as possible.
>
>
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Rain
>
>
> Regards,
>    Shadi
>
> --
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>