- From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:34:41 -0700
- To: Kitch Barnicle <kab42@columbia.edu>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Response in JRG: At 02:39 PM 8/20/99 -0500, Kitch Barnicle wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Since I have been away for three months I either bring a fresh eye to the >guidelines or I am totally clueless, or perhaps both. So feel free to put >me back in my place. > >I have been reading the guidelines with the notion that those check points >that say "For Dependent User Agents" in front of them, only apply to >dependent user agents. However in several cases that didn't seem to make >sense. For example why would checkpoints 7.3, "Render content according to >natural language identification," or 9.3 "Allow the user to view a document >outline constructed from its structural elements." only apply to dependent >user agents.? JRG: Natural language means that if the user agent can identify the langauge of the element content (primarily markup of the element) that the user agent should render through speech, visual or braille that appropriate language. It seems to me that this should apply to all user agents, I am not sure why it is just for dependent user agents. The document outline feature was thought most important for accessibility and could be given a higher priority for dependent user agents. > >Following a discussion about what mainstream user agents should expose, I >thought perhaps "for dependent user agents" meant that this checkpoint >should be satisfied by a desktop browser so that the information needed by >a dependent user agent is exposed. However, this meaning breaks down as >well. For example, when I get to the check points that say "for graphical >desktop browsers" it doesn't make sense. JRG: 12. Observe system conventions and standard interfaces is the place fo desktop graphical user agents to expose information that is needed by depedent user agents to full fill a checkpopint. > >So can someone please explain the distinction among checkpoints that say >1)for dependent user agents 2) for graphical desktop browsers and 3) those >checkpoints that do not have a "for" statement. JRG: If nothing is said then they are for both. If one or the other is mentioned it is for the one mentioned. > >If we are going to stay with these distinctions I would suggest that we say >"this checkpoint only applies to dependent user agents" or something >equivalent. > >I promise not to go away again for three months. JRG: Great. > >Thanks, >-kitch > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign 1207 S. Oak Street Champaign, IL 61820 Voice: 217-244-5870 Fax: 217-333-0248 E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
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