- From: Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 18:56:46 +1000
- To: "'Michael Livesey'" <mike.j.livesey@gmail.com>, "'Patrick H. Lauke'" <redux@splintered.co.uk>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <007e01dabd6f$9fcfdbb0$df6f9310$@bigpond.com>
In SC1.1.1, ALL non text content has a text alternative that serves an equivalent purpose (except for the stated caveats). It would be difficult to argue that any content whether it is programmatically focusable, focusable using TAB, or indeed whether it can be focused by assistive technology that it is not being presented to a user. ‘non-text content’ is often taken to mean natively interactive elements such as buttons, links, and inputs, but, if taken more literally, it also may capture formulations such as a “p with a tabindex of zero”. That is, something that is presented to a user by means of any type of focus that is not covered by the six caveats in SC1.1.1 can be thought of as a threshold for determining whether this something also failsSC2.4.3. So perhaps the nub of the issue is that ‘redundant’ or ‘static’ are insufficient for establishing a ‘non-subjective’ boundary for determining failures of SC2.4.3. And I’d also really like to see the wording in the understanding documentation cover focus management for popups etc., is there a github issue for that? From: Michael Livesey <mike.j.livesey@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 1:32 AM To: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Focus on non-interactive elements As a rule we avoid making non-control elements focusable, however, my feeling is that there are a few situations where it aids UX and understanding to have static elements in the tab order. The aforementioned panel being one. Focus order SC is wide enough to adequately cover when it is logical/illogical to do this so my feeling is that a blanket prohibition is unnecessary. On Tuesday, June 11, 2024, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk> > wrote: > See issue https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1572 and proposed PR that's currently being discussed https://github.com/w3c/wcag/pull/1643 > > P > -- > Patrick H. Lauke > > * https://www.splintered.co.uk/ > * https://github.com/patrickhlauke > * https://flickr.com/photos/redux/ > * https://mastodon.social/@patrick_h_lauke > > >
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