- From: Louise Lister <Louise.Lister@iop.org>
- Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 15:58:07 +0000
- To: Amber Holladay <amber-holladay@pluralsight.com>
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Thanks, Amber! From: Amber Holladay <amber-holladay@pluralsight.com> Sent: 01 June 2021 16:51 To: Louise Lister <Louise.Lister@iop.org> Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Promotional header option that sits independently of <h1> to <h6>? One way to deal with this situation is to ensure more users understand the context. The gray shading behind the promotional content indicates to some users that this text is "different," but that visual cue is not shared with all users. Adding text or heading of "promotion" will allow more users to perceive the difference. Image description from the original message: Bolded text: I am thinking of becoming a teacher Gray shaded box surrounding the following information: Image: Woman pointing to an equation written on a whiteboard Bolded text: How to teach in Wales (red arrow pointing to this text indicating it is an <h3>) Paragraph: Schools in Wales need more specialist physics teachers than ever before, so we hope our information and advice will encourage you to pursue this rewarding career path. Bolded text: Find out more > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 5:07 AM Louise Lister <Louise.Lister@iop.org<mailto:Louise.Lister@iop.org>> wrote: Brilliant, thanks Patrick. That really helps! -----Original Message----- From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk<mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>> Sent: 01 June 2021 11:53 To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Subject: Re: Promotional header option that sits independently of <h1> to <h6>? Sadly, HTML is limited in this respect ... the whole page has a single heading hierarchy, and it's not really possible to create separate zones/isolated blocks with their own internal hierarchy. The whole concept of heading outline algorithm was intended to partially address this, but sadly it's only a fiction and not really reality https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.accessibility-developer-guide.com%2Fexamples%2Fheadings%2Fhtml-5-outline%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7C707061848b38495aba6d08d924ec6fa1%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637581420170614469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=OsapHuSF3BG4%2B8hVXgVbGtGUDjCCYybrF8hc9LjHA7U%3D&reserved=0<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.accessibility-developer-guide.com%2Fexamples%2Fheadings%2Fhtml-5-outline%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7C025d7b0425cf40da52b008d925150810%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637581594519164130%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vzmnEYvpoQECtNiiWFdQcjemyuAUPyybn3Vd%2BiLZusQ%3D&reserved=0> My general advice would be to just choose a particular heading level that's reasonably high up (like <h2>), and then stick to it. 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