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Re: empty table code and screen reader

From: Mohsen Mahjoobnia <mm14kl@student.ocadu.ca>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:46:56 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKF8kE1bP7Ka4q5_NwTyWATOT=1bXwEzbbRGhhRhZVUFhMhVDA@mail.gmail.com>
To: ALAN SMITH <alands289@gmail.com>
Cc: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Thank you Alan,

Yes we do have the focus for "“skip to content” and not always hidden.

I was checking a page (just googled)  Accessible Data Tables
<http://pauljadam.com/demos/data-tables.html#heading><path:
http://pauljadam.com/demos/data-tables.html#heading5 > and was also trying
my NVDA, and found it confusing! when the cell is empty it reads: column
heading, then…nothing

Am I doing something wrong or  over complicating it?

Thanks again

M

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:38 PM, ALAN SMITH <alands289@gmail.com> wrote:

> Moshen,
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> Let me address one thing you said.
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> “Or be white-on-white font similar to the “skip to content” link?”
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> Why would you have white text for a link that all keyboard only users need
> to use?
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> You have a skip link that is inaccessible for visual users.
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> Never make it always hidden. You can make it hidden till it gets focus but
> not always hidden.
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> For table cells, either some text like N/A or Blank - visual or just
> announced - or just non-breaking spaces all work from my experience.
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> Alan Smith
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> *From: *Mohsen Mahjoobnia <mm14kl@student.ocadu.ca>
> *Sent: *Friday, December 1, 2017 1:12 PM
> *To: *w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> *Subject: *empty table code and screen reader
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> Hello
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> This might be a simple and repetitive question, but i'm trying to get a
> solid straight answer:
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> When having empty data cells table, what is the best method? considering
> that our website is restricted and only HTML code via dropule.
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> Should I use "Not Applicable" or non-breaking space <td>&nbsp;</td> ? any
> other solutions?
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> or as my colleague suggested: What if we added the text “N/A” and set it
> to not be visible? Or be white-on-white font similar to the “skip to
> content” link?
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> Thank you in advance
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> Cheers
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> M
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MDes, Inclusive Design, OCAD University


*RE**/**MAX* *Ultimate* *Realty Inc. Brokerage,*

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Cell: +1-647-460-7009

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