- From: Brian Bors <b.bors@accessibility.nl>
- Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 15:33:32 +0200
- Cc: w3c WAI List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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Hey Sandra, Sure: https://www.dyslexiefont.com/ https://opendyslexic.org/ http://www.robsfonts.com/fonts/sylexiad I make no claims of the effectiveness of these fonts! To little research has gone into these fonts, and the little research (with small samples) that I have seen actually shows no significant statistical difference in reading speed nor amount of reading errors. Still; seems worth it to give it a try. Greetings, Brian 2017-05-03 15:07 GMT+02:00 Sandra Evans <sandra@barking.ca>: > Hi Brian > > Can you provide some examples of the fonts you are referring to? > > Thanks, > Sandra > > Sandra Evans > Web Team Associate > > *Barking Dog Studios* > > *21 Nottingham Street, Guelph, ON N1H 3M6* > 519.766.0215 <(519)%20766-0215> > www.barking.ca > > *Like Barking Dog Studios on Facebook! > <https://www.facebook.com/bdstudioinc/> * > > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Brian Bors <b.bors@accessibility.nl> > wrote: > >> Greetings Juliette, >> >> Apart from the excellent answers already stated I would also like to >> point out SC 1.4.5. >> >> Users with dyslexia are slowly starting to use one of the dyslexia fonts >> out there (especially if they have trouble with "flipping" letters and >> numbers like 9 and 6 for example.). Following SC 1.4.5 (among other SC) >> makes sure that people have the ability to use the font of their choice to >> read any text on a webpage. >> >> But yes. Forgetting about dyslexia and applying universal design instead >> is probably the wiser choice in general. >> >> Greetings, >> >> Brian Bors >> Accessibility foundation - the Netherlands >> >> 2017-05-02 23:08 GMT+02:00 Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>: >> >>> Jonathan makes a good point: "This is why the WAI has released a number >>> of documents as non-normative notes to assist the community." >>> and may I add, the Level AAA WCAG Success Criteria >>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-levels-head>, >>> which can be applied some of the time to some of the content that will >>> additionally benefit users with Dyslexia. >>> >>> and, a call for help, >>> >>> I seem to have lost my cross-reference of WCAG Success Criteria by >>> Disability Type, Its a table that shows the disability that benefits from >>> conformance to that Success Criteria. There was a reference (table or >>> spreadsheet) that listed the disabilities by WCAG Success Criteria, and a >>> list of Disabilities and the WCAG Success Criteria that were benefitted. I >>> thought is was once in the TEITACC report [Note 1]. Any links anyone? >>> I think Dyslexia and/or Cognitive/language/learning was on the cross >>> reference table/spreadsheet. >>> >>> The TEITACC does list Disabilities – The disabilities for which this >>> recommendation is intended to remove barriers. >>> see https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/commun >>> ications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/background/teitac-repo >>> rt/6-the-recommendations#add >>> Specifically listing the following in "Disabilities: Cognitive/language/learning >>> ", see example from provision 3-I Pausing below >>> but its not is an easy to use a table or sortable spreadsheet for >>> look-up reference. >>> >>> Example: >>> 3-I: Pausing >>> A mechanism must be provided to pause moving . . . >>> Additional Information >>> >>> - Text from Web and Software >>> - Source: {508}1194.21(h) >>> - Impact: >>> Version 1: Significant: User agents provide support for this on >>> some Web technologies. But for other Web technologies and for software, the >>> application developer must provide this support. >>> Version 2: Not Significant once techniques are known (and by the >>> time this is in effect) it should not be hard to do this as a routine step >>> and will be appreciated by many mainstream as well. >>> - External Reference: Harmonized with WCAG 2.0-2.2.2 Pausing (Level >>> AA) >>> - Testability: Inspection >>> - *Disabilities: Blindness, Low vision, Cognitive/language/learning* >>> >>> >>> Note 1: 508 Advisory Committee Report https://www.access-board.gov/g >>> uidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict- >>> refresh/background/teitac-report >>> >>> Does anyone have the table or spreadsheet version? >>> __________ >>> Regards, >>> Phill Jenkins >>> Senior Engineer & Accessibility Executive >>> IBM Accessibility Research >>> linkedin.com/in/philljenkins/ >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/philljenkins/> >>> ibm.com/able <http://www.ibm.com/able> >>> facebook.com/IBMAccessibility <http://www.facebook.com/IBMAccessibility> >>> <http://ageandability.com/>twitter.com/IBMAccess >>> ageandability.com >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> >>> To: WAI IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >>> Date: 05/02/2017 02:19 PM >>> Subject: RE: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Ø Why and how would you want to do that rather than just subscribing >>> to a well-defined set of universal design criteria? >>> >>> As good and relevant as the WCAG 2 guidelines are – there is always room >>> to review and add to them. In 2008 technology was at a different state and >>> the guidelines were written to be technology agnostic to the web technology >>> at the time. Today new specifications such as ARIA are available and >>> different technologies and options are available for users. Considering >>> the broadest set of needs that may not have been possible in 2008 but that >>> are possible to be put into future guidelines today should and must be >>> evaluated to make sure we increase accesss to more content for more >>> people. In addition, implementing best practices that cannot become formal >>> guidelines but that may increase access is an important step as well. >>> There will always be useful things that can be done but for whatever reason >>> can’t make it into the final guidelines but still provide value to some >>> users. This is why the WAI has released a number of documents as >>> non-normative notes to assist the community. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> Jonathan Avila >>> Chief Accessibility Officer >>> SSB BART Group >>> *jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com* <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> >>> 703.637.8957 <(703)%20637-8957> (Office) >>> >>> Visit us online: *Website* <http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/>| *Twitter* >>> <https://twitter.com/SSBBARTGroup>| *Facebook* >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ssbbartgroup>| *LinkedIn* >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/355266?trk=tyah>| *Blog* >>> <http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/> >>> *Download our CSUN Presentations Here!* >>> <http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/CSUN-2017_Gateway-Sig-Slide-Decks-2017.html> >>> >>> The information contained in this transmission may be attorney >>> privileged and/or confidential information intended for the use of the >>> individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the >>> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, >>> distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. >>> >>> *From:* Lars Ballieu Christensen [mailto:lbc@sensus.dk <lbc@sensus.dk>] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:35 PM >>> *To:* Juliette >>> *Cc:* WAI IG >>> *Subject:* Re: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia >>> >>> Hi Juliette >>> >>> I would still argue that the best approach would be to follow the >>> general accessibility guidelines (WCAG 2) – that would address the needs >>> most users (not all, I know). In my opinion, the alternative is problematic >>> … having to explicitly decide which users you would want to accommodate. >>> The visually impaired? The dyslexic? Those with motor deficiencies? … the >>> list goes on. Why and how would you want to do that rather than just >>> subscribing to a well-defined set of universal design criteria? >>> >>> Venligst/Kind regards >>> >>> Lars >>> ---- >>> Lars Ballieu Christensen >>> Rådgiver/Adviser, Ph.D., M.Sc., Sensus ApS >>> Specialister i tilgængelighed/Accessibility Consultants >>> Tel: +45 48 22 10 03 <+45%2048%2022%2010%2003> – Mobil: +45 40 32 68 23 >>> - Skype: Ballieu >>> Mail: *lbc@sensus.dk* <lbc@sensus.dk>– Web: *www.sensus.dk* >>> <http://www.sensus.dk/><*http://www.sensus.dk/* <http://www.sensus.dk/>> >>> & >>> *www.robobraille.org* <http://www.robobraille.org/>< >>> *http://www.robobraille.org/* <http://www.robobraille.org/>> >>> >>> Vi arbejder for et tilgængeligt og rummeligt informationssamfund >>> Working for an accessible and inclusive information society >>> >>> *Fra: *Juliette <*piazza.juliette@gmail.com* <piazza.juliette@gmail.com> >>> > >>> *Dato: *tirsdag den 2. maj 2017 kl. 18.54 >>> *Til: *Lars Ballieu Christensen <*lbc@sensus.dk* <lbc@sensus.dk>> >>> *Cc: *WAI IG <*w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>> >>> *Emne: *Re: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia >>> *Sendt igen fra: *<*w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>> >>> *Dato for sendt igen: *Tue, 02 May 2017 16:56:05 +0000 >>> >>> Hi Lars, >>> >>> I really agree with you. The thing is I know a few companies who either >>> want to show to the world that they are 'accessible for people with visual >>> impairment' or 'accessible for people with dyslexia' or whatever the >>> impairment. They think, providing a guidelines on how to make a website >>> accessible for people with dyslexia for example will give them good >>> publicity.. I tend to explain them that such people will all have their own >>> way to use websites so at the end, if they really want to be 'accessible >>> for people with dyslexia', they simply need to be accessible and following >>> the W3C guidelines is probably the best way to do that. >>> Thanks for you feedback! >>> Best, >>> Juliette >>> >>> >>> On 2 May 2017 at 17:47, Lars Ballieu Christensen <*lbc@sensus.dk* >>> <lbc@sensus.dk>> wrote: >>> Hi Juliette, >>> >>> Accessibility as a term is usually not used to describe accommodations >>> for particular user groups, e.g., people with dyslexia. Rather, >>> accessibility refers to a set of universal design principles that aim to >>> ensure that digital solutions can be used as widely as possible, >>> irrespective of disabilities, situations and technologies. >>> >>> I’m sure you can find design recommendations for people with dyslexia, >>> but in my opinion that has nothing to do with accessibility. It’s actually >>> quite the opposite. >>> >>> Venligst/Kind regards >>> >>> Lars >>> ---- >>> Lars Ballieu Christensen >>> Rådgiver/Adviser, Ph.D., M.Sc., Sensus ApS >>> Specialister i tilgængelighed/Accessibility Consultants >>> Tel: *+45 48 22 10 03* <+45%2048%2022%2010%2003> – Mobil: *+45 40 32 68 >>> 23* <+45%2040%2032%2068%2023> - Skype: Ballieu >>> Mail: *lbc@sensus.dk* <lbc@sensus.dk>– Web: *www.sensus.dk* >>> <http://www.sensus.dk/><*http://www.sensus.dk/* <http://www.sensus.dk/>> >>> & >>> *www.robobraille.org* <http://www.robobraille.org/>< >>> *http://www.robobraille.org/* <http://www..robobraille.org/>> >>> >>> Vi arbejder for et tilgængeligt og rummeligt informationssamfund >>> Working for an accessible and inclusive information society >>> >>> *Fra: *Juliette <*piazza.juliette@gmail.com* <piazza.juliette@gmail.com> >>> > >>> *Dato: *tirsdag den 2. maj 2017 kl. 18.13 >>> *Til: *<undisclosed-recipients:;> >>> *Emne: *Web accessibility for people with dyslexia >>> *Sendt igen fra: *<*w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>> >>> *Dato for sendt igen: *Tue, 02 May 2017 16:14:46 +0000 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Is there any guidelines to make a website accessible for people with >>> dyslexia? >>> My thoughts are that people with dyslexia can use a wide range of >>> assistive technologies or no assistive technology at all. For this reason, >>> making a website accessible for people with dyslexia leads to entirely >>> follow the W3C guidelines. But, is there any specific standards or criteria >>> for people with dyslexia? >>> Thanks a lot. >>> >>> -- >>> Juliette >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Juliette >>> >>> >>> >> >
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