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Re: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia

From: Sandra Evans <sandra@barking.ca>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 09:07:12 -0400
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To: Brian Bors <b.bors@accessibility.nl>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi Brian

Can you provide some examples of the fonts you are referring to?

Thanks,
Sandra

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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Brian Bors <b.bors@accessibility.nl> wrote:

> Greetings Juliette,
>
> Apart from the excellent answers already stated I would also like to point
> out SC 1.4.5.
>
> Users with dyslexia are slowly starting to use one of the dyslexia fonts
> out there (especially if they have trouble with "flipping" letters and
> numbers like 9 and 6 for example.). Following SC 1.4.5 (among other SC)
> makes sure that people have the ability to use the font of their choice to
> read any text on a webpage.
>
> But yes. Forgetting about dyslexia and applying universal design instead
> is probably the wiser choice in general.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Brian Bors
> Accessibility foundation - the Netherlands
>
> 2017-05-02 23:08 GMT+02:00 Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>:
>
>> Jonathan makes a good point: "This is why the WAI has released a number
>> of documents as non-normative notes to assist the community."
>> and may I add, the Level AAA WCAG Success Criteria
>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-levels-head>,
>> which can be applied some of the time to some of the content that will
>> additionally benefit users with Dyslexia.
>>
>> and, a call for help,
>>
>> I seem to have lost my cross-reference of WCAG Success Criteria by
>> Disability Type, Its a table that shows the disability that benefits from
>> conformance to that Success Criteria.  There was a reference (table or
>> spreadsheet) that listed the disabilities by WCAG Success Criteria, and a
>> list of Disabilities and the WCAG Success Criteria that were benefitted.  I
>> thought is was once in the TEITACC report [Note 1]. Any links anyone?
>> I think Dyslexia and/or Cognitive/language/learning was on the cross
>> reference table/spreadsheet.
>>
>> The TEITACC does list Disabilities – The disabilities for which this
>> recommendation is intended to remove barriers.
>> see https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/commun
>> ications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/background/teitac-
>> report/6-the-recommendations#add
>> Specifically listing the following in "Disabilities: Cognitive/language/learning
>> ", see example from provision 3-I Pausing below
>> but its not is an easy to use a table or sortable spreadsheet for look-up
>> reference.
>>
>> Example:
>>         3-I:  Pausing
>>        A mechanism must be provided to pause moving . . .
>>         Additional Information
>>
>>    - Text from Web and Software
>>    - Source:  {508}1194.21(h)
>>    - Impact:
>>    Version 1:  Significant:  User agents provide support for this on
>>    some Web technologies. But for other Web technologies and for software, the
>>    application developer must provide this support.
>>    Version 2:  Not Significant once techniques are known (and by the
>>    time this is in effect) it should not be hard to do this as a routine step
>>    and will be appreciated by many mainstream as well.
>>    - External Reference:  Harmonized with WCAG 2.0-2.2.2 Pausing (Level
>>    AA)
>>    - Testability:  Inspection
>>    - *Disabilities:  Blindness, Low vision, Cognitive/language/learning*
>>
>>
>> Note 1: 508 Advisory Committee Report https://www.access-board.gov/g
>> uidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-
>> refresh/background/teitac-report
>>
>> Does anyone have the table or spreadsheet version?
>> __________
>> Regards,
>> Phill Jenkins
>> Senior Engineer & Accessibility Executive
>> IBM Accessibility Research
>> linkedin.com/in/philljenkins/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/philljenkins/>
>> ibm.com/able <http://www.ibm.com/able>
>> facebook.com/IBMAccessibility <http://www.facebook.com/IBMAccessibility>
>> <http://ageandability.com/>twitter.com/IBMAccess
>> ageandability.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
>> To:        WAI IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>> Date:        05/02/2017 02:19 PM
>> Subject:        RE: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Ø  Why and how would you want to do that rather than just subscribing to
>> a well-defined set of universal design criteria?
>>
>> As good and relevant as the WCAG 2 guidelines are – there is always room
>> to review and add to them.  In 2008 technology was at a different state and
>> the guidelines were written to be technology agnostic to the web technology
>> at the time.  Today new specifications such as ARIA are available and
>> different technologies and options are available for users.  Considering
>> the broadest set of needs that may not have been possible in 2008 but that
>> are possible to be put into future guidelines today should and must be
>> evaluated to make sure we increase accesss to more content for more
>> people.  In addition, implementing best practices that cannot become formal
>> guidelines but that may increase access is an important step as well.
>> There will always be useful things that can be done but for whatever reason
>> can’t make it into the final guidelines but still provide value to some
>> users.  This is why the WAI has released a number of documents as
>> non-normative notes to assist the community.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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>> *From:* Lars Ballieu Christensen [mailto:lbc@sensus.dk <lbc@sensus.dk>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:35 PM
>> *To:* Juliette
>> *Cc:* WAI IG
>> *Subject:* Re: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia
>>
>> Hi Juliette
>>
>> I would still argue that the best approach would be to follow the general
>> accessibility guidelines (WCAG 2) – that would address the needs most users
>> (not all, I know). In my opinion, the alternative is problematic … having
>> to explicitly decide which users you would want to accommodate. The
>> visually impaired? The dyslexic? Those with motor deficiencies? … the list
>> goes on. Why and how would you want to do that rather than just subscribing
>> to a well-defined set of universal design criteria?
>>
>> Venligst/Kind regards
>>
>> Lars
>> ----
>> Lars Ballieu Christensen
>> Rådgiver/Adviser, Ph.D., M.Sc., Sensus ApS
>> Specialister i tilgængelighed/Accessibility Consultants
>> Tel: +45 48 22 10 03 <+45%2048%2022%2010%2003> – Mobil: +45 40 32 68 23
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>> Vi arbejder for et tilgængeligt og rummeligt informationssamfund
>> Working for an accessible and inclusive information society
>>
>> *Fra: *Juliette <*piazza.juliette@gmail.com* <piazza.juliette@gmail.com>>
>> *Dato: *tirsdag den 2. maj 2017 kl. 18.54
>> *Til: *Lars Ballieu Christensen <*lbc@sensus.dk* <lbc@sensus.dk>>
>> *Cc: *WAI IG <*w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
>> *Emne: *Re: Web accessibility for people with dyslexia
>> *Sendt igen fra: *<*w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
>> *Dato for sendt igen: *Tue, 02 May 2017 16:56:05 +0000
>>
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> I really agree with you. The thing is I know a few companies who either
>> want to show to the world that they are 'accessible for people with visual
>> impairment' or 'accessible for people with dyslexia' or whatever the
>> impairment. They think, providing a guidelines on how to make a website
>> accessible for people with dyslexia for example will give them good
>> publicity.. I tend to explain them that such people will all have their own
>> way to use websites so at the end, if they really want to be 'accessible
>> for people with dyslexia', they simply need to be accessible and following
>> the W3C guidelines is probably the best way to do that.
>> Thanks for you feedback!
>> Best,
>> Juliette
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2017 at 17:47, Lars Ballieu Christensen <*lbc@sensus.dk*
>> <lbc@sensus.dk>> wrote:
>> Hi Juliette,
>>
>> Accessibility as a term is usually not used to describe accommodations
>> for particular user groups, e.g., people with dyslexia. Rather,
>> accessibility refers to a set of universal design principles that aim to
>> ensure that digital solutions can be used as widely as possible,
>> irrespective of disabilities, situations and technologies.
>>
>> I’m sure you can find design recommendations for people with dyslexia,
>> but in my opinion that has nothing to do with accessibility. It’s actually
>> quite the opposite.
>>
>> Venligst/Kind regards
>>
>> Lars
>> ----
>> Lars Ballieu Christensen
>> Rådgiver/Adviser, Ph.D., M.Sc., Sensus ApS
>> Specialister i tilgængelighed/Accessibility Consultants
>> Tel: *+45 48 22 10 03* <+45%2048%2022%2010%2003> – Mobil: *+45 40 32 68
>> 23* <+45%2040%2032%2068%2023> - Skype: Ballieu
>> Mail: *lbc@sensus.dk* <lbc@sensus.dk>– Web: *www.sensus.dk*
>> <http://www.sensus.dk/><*http://www.sensus.dk/* <http://www.sensus.dk/>>
>> &
>> *www.robobraille.org* <http://www.robobraille.org/><
>> *http://www.robobraille.org/* <http://www..robobraille.org/>>
>>
>> Vi arbejder for et tilgængeligt og rummeligt informationssamfund
>> Working for an accessible and inclusive information society
>>
>> *Fra: *Juliette <*piazza.juliette@gmail.com* <piazza.juliette@gmail.com>>
>> *Dato: *tirsdag den 2. maj 2017 kl. 18.13
>> *Til: *<undisclosed-recipients:;>
>> *Emne: *Web accessibility for people with dyslexia
>> *Sendt igen fra: *<*w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
>> *Dato for sendt igen: *Tue, 02 May 2017 16:14:46 +0000
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there any guidelines to make a website accessible for people with
>> dyslexia?
>> My thoughts are that people with dyslexia can use a wide range of
>> assistive technologies or no assistive technology at all. For this reason,
>> making a website accessible for people with dyslexia leads to entirely
>> follow the W3C guidelines. But, is there any specific standards or criteria
>> for people with dyslexia?
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
>> --
>> Juliette
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Juliette
>>
>>
>>
>
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