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Re: WCAG 2.0 and EN 301 549

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:05:35 +0200
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <57E16C5F.6070108@w3.org>
Hi,

On 20-Sep-16 18:27, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 20/09/2016 16:29, Olaf Drümmer wrote:
>> While ETSI carried out the development of EN 301 549, it actually is a
>> CEN standard - so CEN would have the last word about this.
>
> The 2014 [1] and the April 2015 versions [2] available from ETSI have
> CEN, CENELEC and ETSI on the cover page, since the EC mandate (Mandate
> 376) went to all three of these standardisation bodies.
> The copyright notification mentions CEN, CENELEC and ETSI as copyright
> holders, so the claim that it is exclusively a CEN standard is
> incorrect.  (The European Commission wanted the standard to be published
> by ETSI so it would be available free of charge.)

Agree, this is my understanding as well.


> However, I don't know what the process would be when WCAG 2.0 gets updated:
>
> * Would the Join Working Group (CEN/CLC/ETSI/JWG eAcc) update EN 301
> 549? (Without a new mandate?)
> * Would W3C submit the new version to ISO? This would indirectly allow
> acceptance as a CEN standard, since CEN and ISO have the "Vienna
> Agreement", which allows, among other things, the "adoption of existing
> international standards as European standards" [3]. (W3C was recognised
> as a "PAS Submitter" by ISO in 2010 [4]; I am not aware of anything
> similar between W3C and CEN.)

As far as I know, EN 301 549 references WCAG 2.0 directly rather than 
ISO/IEC 40500. Here is the relevant text from Clause 9:

[[
The web content requirements in clause 9.2 set out all of the Level A 
and Level AA Success Criteria from the W3C Web Content Accessibility 
Guidelines (WCAG 2.0) [4]

...

NOTE 2: WCAG 2.0 is identical to ISO/IEC 40500 (2012): "Information 
technology - W3C Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0" [4].

...

[4] W3C Recommendation (11 December 2008)/ISO/IEC 40500:2012: "Web 
Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0". NOTE: Available at 
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/.
]]

The EN also "contains" an electronic copy of WCAG 2.0 in Annex A.

I understand there are explorations to update the EN. Hopefully future 
versions will continue to be aligned with W3C resources.

Information about WCAG WG and how to join is available here:
  - https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/

Best,
   Shadi


>> CEN (https://www.cen.eu/Pages/default.aspx) is the “European Committee
>> for Standardization”. The abbreviation CEN goes back to the French
>> equivalent “Comité européen de normalisation”.
>>
>> The CEN website link to EN 301 549 “Accessibility requirements
>> suitable for public procurement of ICT products and services in
>> Europe" is:
>> https://standards.cen.eu/dyn/www/f?p=204:110:0::::FSP_PROJECT,FSP_ORG_ID:60328,855949&cs=18CA5914157C8AAA297634B3D0FEE774B
>>
>
> [1]
> <http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/01.01.01_60/en_301549v010101p.pdf>
> [2]
> <http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/301500_301599/301549/01.01.02_60/en_301549v010102p.pdf>
> [3] <http://boss.cen.eu/ref/Vienna_Agreement.pdf>
> [4] <https://www.w3.org/2010/04/pasfaq>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Christophe Strobbe
>
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Sep 2016, at 15:56, Vlerken-Thonen, M. van (Michèlle) - Logius
>>> <michelle.van.vlerkenthonen@logius.nl
>>> <mailto:michelle.van.vlerkenthonen@logius.nl>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Chaals, that sounds logical. I could not find anything on
>>> ETSI’s website on this subject unfortunately so I was hoping someone
>>> on this list might have some inside information ;-). Agreed that two
>>> different versions would be a bad idea!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Van:* chaals@yandex-team.ru <mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru>
>>> [mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru]
>>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 20 september 2016 15:50
>>> *Aan:* Vlerken-Thonen, M. van (Michèlle) - Logius; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>>> <mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>>> *Onderwerp:* Re: WCAG 2.0 and EN 301 549
>>>
>>> Hi Michelle,
>>>
>>> 20.09.2016, 15:29, "Vlerken-Thonen, M. van (Michèlle) - Logius"
>>> <michelle.van.vlerkenthonen@logius.nl
>>> <mailto:michelle.van.vlerkenthonen@logius.nl>>:
>>>
>>>      WCAG 2.0's Level A and AA success criteria are incorporated as
>>>      references in clause 9.2 of the European standard EN 301 549
>>>      published by ETSI.
>>>
>>>      I was wondering what will happen if a new version of WCAG is
>>>      published. Will EN 301 549 change as well?
>>>
>>> Presumably that is up to ETSI...
>>>
>>>      If an organization wants to participate in the work on
>>>      accessibility guidelines (for example give input to improve the
>>>      success criteria or techniques) would a membership of W3C or ETSI
>>>      be more appropriate?
>>>
>>> Participation in W3C, since that's where the document actually gets
>>> written.
>>>
>>> I think a separate ETSI version that was different would be a *bad* idea.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Chaals
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      Thanks for any insights you might have on this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      Michèlle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
>>> chaals@yandex-team.ru <mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru> - - - Find more
>>> at http://yandex.com <http://yandex.com/>
>>>
>
>>
>
>
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