- From: Taliesin Smith <talilief@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 23:21:20 -0230
- To: Anh Hua <anhhua@uw.edu>
- Cc: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>, Bob carroll <accessys@smart.net>, WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABu36yF0s2j2+QaoAkjWwo40yMce2dZ==6NYbBs5YRZnKn0YSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Anh Hua, You have gotten a lot of feedback already. I'll just add a couple academic resources that I found very enlightening and useful when I started on my masters degree 2 years ago. The 2007 study on screen reader users by Lazar et al describes in detail how they designed their data collection survey and signing procedures in a way to not "frustrate" the people they wanted to study. Times have changed, so you will make different kinds of adjustments to your methods; however, the article is a nice example of how it takes effort and thought to design inclusive research methods. Another useful read is an updated version of a 2008 paper on writing about accessibility by Hanson, Cavender and Trewin. I hope you find these resources as useful and enlightening as I did. Good luck with your studies. Taliesin Lazar, J., Allen, A., Kleinman, J., & Malarkey, C. (2007). What Frustrates Screen Reader Users on the Web: A Study of 100 Blind Users. *International Journal of Human-Computer Interaction*, *22*(3), 247–269. http://doi.org/10.1080/10447310709336964 Hanson, V. L., Cavender, A., & Trewin, S. (2015). Writing about accessibility. Interactions, 22(6), 62–65. http://doi.org/10.1145/2828432 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Anh Hua <anhhua@uw.edu> wrote: > Hi Karen, > > Thank you for your feedback! > > For the scope of this class, my focus is screen readers and the internet. > The purpose is to understand how people use screen reader to access content > on websites, identify common patterns and learn about what can be done to > improve the web browsing experience. I understand it is limited in scope > and doesn't cover all of the use cases of other assistive technology as > well as different ways people access content on the web. However, with the > time and resources, I can't dive deeper into this topic as I would like to. > > May I ask what is the operating system, screen reader, and browser that > you use? > I'll be sure to include this issue in the report! > > Thanks again! > > *ANH HUA* > College of Engineering > University of Washington | Class of 2017 > Human Centered Design and Engineering > anhhua@uw.edu > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> > wrote: > >> One more point then. >> Your institution has Human centered design in its name. may I suggest >> that you treat this subject if you can of course, with the individual human >> respect that title mandates. >> Just as DNA sets individuals apart in unique but human ways, the factors >> behind the choices of adaptive tools may be governed by human individual >> choices. Choices that regardless of a shared label, may be as different as >> DNA. >> Off my soapbox smiles. >> Karen >> >> >> On Tue, 17 May 2016, Anh Hua wrote: >> >> I'm also taking notes of all of the opinions! Thank you for taking the >>> time >>> to give feedback! >>> >>> Best wishes! >>> >>> *ANH HUA* >>> College of Engineering >>> University of Washington | Class of 2017 >>> Human Centered Design and Engineering >>> anhhua@uw.edu >>> >>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Anh Hua <anhhua@uw.edu> wrote: >>> >>> I'm terribly sorry to hear that it wasn't accessible for you. I'm a >>>> student and am just starting to learn about accessibility, therefore I >>>> don't entirely have the hang of it yet. I consulted a few people who use >>>> screen readers to see which survey tool was accessible to use before >>>> starting the project. At the end I went with Google Form because it >>>> allowed >>>> anyone to access, as opposed to Catalyst, a survey tool my school >>>> provide. >>>> However it seems like it is not accessible for everyone. >>>> >>>> So I have a few questions regarding the feedback: >>>> >>>> 1. Can you tell me what was inaccessible about it so I can make sure >>>> it doesn't happen again? >>>> 2. What survey tools do you usually use that are accessible? >>>> 3. For the problems you encountered, have that happened with Google >>>> Form before? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> *ANH HUA* >>>> College of Engineering >>>> University of Washington | Class of 2017 >>>> Human Centered Design and Engineering >>>> anhhua@uw.edu >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM, <accessys@smart.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> agree with all you have said and I probably would have said similar if >>>>> I >>>>> wasn't so dang PO'd after my first attempt. then got busy with work. >>>>> >>>>> let me just add >>>>> >>>>> Amen!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 17 May 2016, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:51:02 -0400 (EDT) >>>>> >>>>>> From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> >>>>>> To: accessys@smart.net >>>>>> Cc: Anh Hua <anhhua@uw.edu>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: Screen Reader Survey for User Research Class >>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:51:34 +0000 >>>>>> Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ...Actually rather a few issues here. >>>>>> If this survey is to have choices, it is not constructed towards that >>>>>> end. instead at least for me, the entire survey is one long text entry >>>>>> field. Was that intended? >>>>>> Further, your questions suggest that the tool, somehow changes the >>>>>> object on which that tool is used, rather than individual choices and >>>>>> goals >>>>>> influencing how a tool is used. Some screen readers do just that read, >>>>>> think of our monitor, some allow a person to interact, some work >>>>>> better in >>>>>> different computer environments. >>>>>> Additionally many populations besides those experiencing vision issues >>>>>> can and often do make use of screen readers. >>>>>> I have read more than once that the human brain processes faster with >>>>>> verbal input, so that can translate to a person with another reading >>>>>> uniqueness benefiting as well. >>>>>> lastly since screen readers can be used in combination with other >>>>>> technology, you may be missing some applications of your research. >>>>>> Speaking only for myself the stereotypes associated with adaptive >>>>>> technology do a great deal of damage. Your questions seem rooted in >>>>>> more >>>>>> stereotypes as I read it, suggesting that only one population should >>>>>> enjoy >>>>>> inclusive web experiences. that has me wondering what your survey >>>>>> will >>>>>> contribute to the inclusiveness field? >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 17 May 2016, accessys@smart.net wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> survey doesn't work with all screen readers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> nothing like a survey about screen readers that won't work with >>>>>>> them...... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2016, Anh Hua wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 19:56:50 -0700 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Anh Hua <anhhua@uw.edu> >>>>>>>> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Screen Reader Survey for User Research Class >>>>>>>> Resent-Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 02:57:24 +0000 >>>>>>>> Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My name is Anh Hua. I am a student at the University of Washington >>>>>>>> studying >>>>>>>> Human Centered Design and Engineering. This quarter I'm taking a >>>>>>>> class in >>>>>>>> user research. I'm really interested in accessibility, therefore I >>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>> learning about web accessibility and screen reader usage. I would >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> appreciate it if you can help me with this survey. The survey is >>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>> minute long, and it would help solidify my findings from previous >>>>>>>> projects >>>>>>>> as well as provide insights for my final reports. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The link to the survey is listed below: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Link to Survey <http://goo.gl/forms/M7fUC8HKpg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you all! I would also really appreciate it if you have >>>>>>>> friends >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> acquaintances who use screen readers and would have great insights >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> add. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *ANH HUA* >>>>>>>> College of Engineering >>>>>>>> University of Washington | Class of 2017 >>>>>>>> Human Centered Design and Engineering >>>>>>>> anhhua@uw.edu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >
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