- From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:47:17 -0600
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFF63F79BE.DA1F0ED3-ON86257F15.00802AED-86257F15.0082ADF7@us.ibm.com>
Your code does fail 1.3.2 - Meaningful Sequence
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/content-structure-separation-sequence.html#content-structure-separation-sequence-examples-head
Examples of Success Criterion 1.3.2
Example 1: In a multi-column document, the linear presentation of the
content flows from the top of a column to the bottom of the column, then
to the top of the next column.
Regarding your question about applicability of SC 1.3.1 - Info and
Relationships: Information, structure, and relationships conveyed through
presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/content-structure-separation-programmatic.html
I do not think SC 1.3.1 always applies in your example description. It
would if there were headings at the top of each colum that were not marked
as headings, or regions (landmarks) if the purpose of each column was
conveyed some other way. However, SC 1.3.1 would apply if the information
in the column is referred to in the text by its column position
(realtionship to the other columns) - for example, if someone had to do
something with xyz in column 3, how would the AT user be able to determine
that without sight? The AT would only know there are DIV's, not columns.
There would have to be a heading or label or something like that that is
redundant with the visual positioning. E.g. "do something with xyz in the
Highlights section in column 3... If the information is not referred to by
it relationship (e.g.column 3), then SC 1.3.1 is not applicable in my
opinion.
Another example is where a 3 column layout transfroms to a single column
layout when going from desktop view to smartphone view and there is no
loss in information relationship needed to use the app.
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Regards,
Phill Jenkins,
IBM Accessibility
From: Oscar Cao <oscar.cao@live.com>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Date: 12/08/2015 03:53 PM
Subject: SC 1.3.1 and virtual columns
Hello fellow interest group members.
I would like to know what the interest group?s views/opinions are in
regards to SC 1.3.1 and the following scenario.
The page has a three column layout (not created using tables). There?s a
?box container of information?, it has been positioned via CSS to appear
in the virtual third column. However, in the source code, it sits at the
very start of the content section, see code below:
<section>
<div class=?box?>
<!-- box container of information -->
</div>
<div class=?column?>
<!-- column one -->
</div>
<div class=?column?>
<!-- column two -->
</div>
<div class=?column?>
<!-- column three -->
</div>
</section>
The box container information is self-contained and will make sense
wherever you place it. Thus, I didn?t bring up SC 1.3.2 (that talks about
sequence). However, I am unsure if the positioning of the box information
breaks SC 1.3.1. in regards to not being able to programmatically
determine the visual position/location of the box container. Sighted users
see it in column three, while AT users see it as the first thing.
Regards
Oscar
Received on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:48:08 UTC