Re: PDF accessibility guidelines

or a third option, develop OCR properly or get the pdf-> something 
accessible format.   and/or make the conversion process more user 
friendly/open sourced/cross platformed/and reliable

just saying pdf is here, Live with it is not acceptable

Bob


On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, [iso-8859-1] Olaf Drümmer wrote:

> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:33:40 +0100
> From: "[iso-8859-1] Olaf Drümmer" <olaflist@callassoftware.com>
> To: w3c WAI List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Cc: "[iso-8859-1] Olaf Drümmer" <olaflist@callassoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: PDF accessibility guidelines
> Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:34:09 +0000
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> On 23 Jan 2015, at 21:48, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> No matter how much PDF/UA or ISO 32000-1 are prettified with access
>> capability,
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>>  they are a web accessibility plague
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>> "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
>> words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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> Why do I like this triad? ;-)
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> OK, folks, keep it coming, all your frustration! And once we are through with it, let's revisit the options we have in front of us.
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> For me the question boils down to the following:
> Can we make all the PDFs, all the printed stuff, all the page centric content, all the standalone documents and publications go away? Or at least deflect into HTML/web-based representations?  Maybe. Maybe in the long run. Until then, for possibly a very long time, we will have to accept the fact that a lot of content lives in PDFs, and quite a substantial portion of it only in PDF. Interesting content. Useful content. Exciting content. Precious content.
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> Now, as I see it, the options in this context are:
> - wait until all this stuff re-emerges as HTML / on the web
> - embrace PDF and make it (more) accessible (than it is today)
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> Everybody is free to wait it out. I am not patient enough for this game. I have been in the PDF industry for well over 15 years, and I still see it growing substantially rather than going away any time soon. It's just too practical for too many users and use cases.
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> Olaf
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