- From: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:58:26 -0700
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It appears this discussion has morphed into another topic. The link/button comments are interesting, but I suggest they should be another thread. In regard to the use of empty strings for image ALTs, I am in agreement with a number of users that in many cases images are decorative and offer no additional meaning to a page. In such cases, the use of ALT="" is not only acceptable but is more desirable than clogging the page with irrelevant verbage. Ultimately, whether an image is meaningful or not, and what its ALT should be is subjective. In an ideal world, an informed content specialist would be making that call in the design stages and appropriately marking up the wireframes. Unfortunately, it is often developers doing it in a remediation stage. Michael Gower IT Advisory Specialist IBM Global Business Services, Canada 1803 Douglas Street Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 Michael.Gower@ca.ibm.com voice: (250) 220-1146 cel: (250) 661-0098 sms: 2506610098@txt.bellmobility.ca fax: (250) 220-8034 From: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk> To: "'wai-ig list'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Date: 11/03/2011 12:55 AM Subject: Re: Null alt tags for decorative images - Technique H67 Ramón Corominas wrote: > And not all "decorative" images should be inserted via CSS. For example, if the image is a printer icon next to a "print" text, the code of the link could be: > > <a href="..." title="Print this page"> > <img src="ico-print.png" alt="" /> Print > </a> One problem with this is that it is an abuse of links. I'm not sure if that particular use has gained squatters' rights, but a link is a noun, whereas this is a verb, and a title is additional information about what the link leads to, not a description of what it does, and certainly not a "tooltip". The button element was introduced in HTML 4 to cover this case, but, unfortunately was originally implemented in broken form by IE and had no fallback mechanism for older browsers. I would suggest that, from the point of view of people with congitive disabilities, any button that is not a form component will cause difficulties. One of the biggest problems for this class of user, including elderly first time users, is working out the design metaphor to be able to recognize the logical buttons. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work.
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