- From: david poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:09:59 -0400
- To: "Jesper Tverskov" <jesper.tverskov@mail.tele.dk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "'Michael Cooper'" <michaelc@watchfire.com>, "'Wendy Chisholm'" <wendy@w3.org>
I agree with the sentament here I would also add that checking tools need to be adjusted accordingly. Johnnie Apple Seed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesper Tverskov" <jesper.tverskov@mail.tele.dk> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>; "'Michael Cooper'" <michaelc@watchfire.com>; "'Wendy Chisholm'" <wendy@w3.org> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:50 PM Subject: Summary="" spells disaster The more one thinks about the table and summary issues, the more it becomes clear that we don't need strict definitions of data and layout tables and that we should only use the summary attribute for complex data tables when extra clarification is needed. The summary attribute should only be used for data tables when other markup like headers are not enough to make the table understandable and usable for screen readers etc. The summary attribute should only be used when it is going to be a real help for the blind. If in doubt don't use it. What happens the day we make summary="" a new convention meaning layout table? From being virtually unknown among web page authors, the summary attribute becomes mandatory for any table. Soon the table tag will be born with summary="" in many web authoring tools. Most web page authors knowing nothing about the finer details of how to use the summary attribute will start supplying all kinds of silly summaries for all sorts of tables. Or they will just leave the summary="" as it is or delete the attribute. The end result is most likely mountains of useless markup meaning nothing or the wrong thing most of the time, making the life of the blind even more difficult. One of the main issues of accessibility is the Do-Gooders thinking that if some new attribute or value for an attribute looks nice as a proposal it also is nice when implemented in the real world by user agents, web authoring tools and millions of web page authors. Almost any solution also has bad or unforeseen consequences often outweighing the believed positive effects of a solution. Solutions believed to solve problems most often also create new problems. Best regards, Jesper Tverskov www.smackthemouse.com
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