- From: Geoff Deering <gdeering@acslink.net.au>
- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:16:30 +1000
- To: "RUST Randal" <RRust@COVANSYS.com>, "WAI-IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> -----Original Message----- > From: RUST Randal > Geoff Deering wrote: > > > Is the W3C fragmenting the web with all these technologies or > > are we missing something? Why can't best of practice > > XHTML/CSS/WAI address most of these issues? > > This is exactly what I am saying with my call to reorganize WCAG 2.0. It > has to all fit together, otherwise the W3C is defeating its own purpose. > > There is so much confusion or ignorance over W3C Recommendations that > most people simply ignore them. I have given presentations at my company > on HTML to web developers who have never even coded HTML by hand, and > wouldn't know the first thing about it. > > ---------- > Randal Rust > Covansys Corp. > Columbus, OH > I probably did not explain the issue I am targeting properly. What I am saying is not specifically WAI/WCAG related, but I was looking for feedback from others to see what they think in trying to address all the W3C technologies. People on this list are developers that often are met with a lot of challenges to deploy applications and interfaces that meet various technical standards, requirements and code validity, so I would expect they think and are concerned about these issues. Here's a mock scenario. Client says they want a site that is user managed and driven by content, and that it has to be able to deliver content to W3C specifications. They spell everything out in the business and functional specs. They want; XHTML Strict (wrapping pages in <xml> declarations where user-agents accept XHTML correctly) WCAG1 P1 & P2 CSS for each media type where applicable. Content generated for and deliver to multiple devices RDF feeds OWL feeds for Semantic Web HTML-Print where applicable HTML-Basic where applicable XForms 1 & 2 where applicable VoiceXML XHTML+Voice Speech Synthesis Markup Language Speech Recognition Grammar Format Kitchen Sink Shebang (I made that one up) It seems to me that this is where we are heading, very complex subsets of markup generated for various targets requiring complex CMSs and complex templating and TCN. Were we just dreaming to try and keep this a simple process? Or was that just being naive? Why couldn't the semantic web have been addressed by properly marked up documents that are semantically rich in themselves? How can one easily deploy something like XHTML + Voice (X+V), without too much development? Why do we need this? Doesn't it say that there are too many shortcomings in current markup if we need something like this? If so just what is the road ahead. I know I have enough on my hands just trying to keep up with basic W3C technologies. Whose the guru who has all this encapsulated in a vision *AND* really knows how to deploy all this in one CMS? If anything, all this is keeping developers in a job. I just want to know that the people steering this ship are sober, and not drunk on technospirits. 2cw Geoff Deering
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