- From: Derek Featherstone <feather@wats.ca>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:17:10 -0500
- To: "'Beheler Kim'" <beheler_kim@bah.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Kim wrote: > My first question is does the textbox that counts down > "number of characters left" need to have a label associated > with it since the text cannot be modified by the user? Certainly -- a form field is a form field, whether or not you are programmatically removing the ability to edit its content or not. This begs the question though, should you really be using a form field for this functionality? Or would it possibly be better done through some other means, such as dynamically manipulating the DOM to include this text rather than via a form field? You also recognize that there are a few other issues: > My second question is how do I make this compliant? I > understand that when a blind person enters text in the > textarea they will not know that the textbox is changing. The most important questions to me are: what is the functionality that you are providing via the (I am assuming) JavaScript based character countdown, and how can you provide that to everyone, regardless of the technology they use (i.e., if using a screen reader, or if JavaScript is off etc...) In terms of the functionality, you are trying to provide a method for users to know how many characters they are able to type, so a few things come to mind: 1. I'd suggest adding an appropriate statement to the form before the textarea that explicitly states the number of characters allowed in the text area. Screen readers will read this, its low tech, and it doesn't rely on JavaScript, so you are enhancing accessibility. > Number of Characters Left: <input type="textbox"> Question: > <textarea> 2. Order is important. The code that you provided shows the textbox before the textarea. I'd suggest reversing this so that the textbox is after the textarea. That way when a user of assistive technology such as JAWS leaves the textarea, their next focus will be the textbox and they will be able to read the critical information you provided in that form field. With the textbox coded before the textarea, a user may get confused as to what the purpose of the textbox, even with an appropriate label. If you put it after, at least they will have a chance to read the text (whether in a text box or as part of a DOM node) before they navigate to the submit button. 3. What happens when they run out of characters? Do you no longer allow them to type? This could be confusing for anyone. How do you let them know they have reached the limit other than by showing the number of characters remaining to be zero? And how will you let them know when JavaScript is off? It would be prudent to support this functionality with some form of server side solution as well, that will also monitor the content of the textarea after submission to deal with situations where JS is off, and other "unknowns". 4. This one is a bit more sketchy, and mostly thinking out loud. From a cognitive perspective, might it be more useful to have a character count of how many characters have been typed, with an appropriate message, rather than simply how many characters are remaining? The reason I think this is that if you include a statement at the start of the form as to how many characters are allowed in the textarea (i.e., Your text submission should be limited to 500 characters), it might make more sense to follow up with "Your text submission is currently 424 characters out of the 500 character limit" or some other appropriate text. Perhaps? Like I said, this last one is more sketchy and I'm just thinking out loud... Hope this helps! Best regards, Derek. -- Derek Featherstone feather@wats.ca Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca Web Accessibility Testing and Services http://www.wats.ca 1.866.932.4878 (North America)
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