- From: Jim Byrne <j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:53:40 +0000
- To: W3c_Access <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <BBCEBF74.205B5%j.byrne@gcal.ac.uk>
Sorry that first paragraph should read "..but I can't see that this should necessarily mean that style switchers are a bad idea. " It should be can't (not 'can'). All the best, Jim on 11/5/03 2:48 PM, Byrne, Jim at J.Byrne@gcal.ac.uk wrote: Tina, Re: <cite> tag. Thanks for the reminder. Re: Users can adjust their browser preferences. In general yes this is true, as I have mentioned in the article - but I can see that this should necessarily mean that style switchers are a bad idea. Creating a page designed to explain to visitors that they can change the preferences in their browser isn't necessarily a simple a task - as there are so many browsers - and they all work differently. It might be the right solutions - but it might not be the most 'usable' solution. Assuming a visitor clicks the link to read the page, they still have to find the instructions for their particular browser (all this could take a bit of time). Changing browser preferences is not always the most intuitive of tasks. This style switcher provides an additional option for changing the presentation of the page - which doesn't stop users from making changes in their browser preferences. In other words - it offers another way to altering the presentation of the page, without breaking anything that already exists. Also - and I think this is important - some browsers don't allow users change their preferences in a way that suits their particular needs. For example, I created a website for an organisation, whose employees used IE 6 on their Win 2000 computers - and the browser itself turned out to be a problem. the Director of the organisation had a visual impairment and wanted the text on their new website to be much larger than the largest size available via the browser preferences. It was not possible to use the browser preferences to change the text to a size that was useful for that particular user; I discussed the problem on this list at the time - but there were no solutions based on changing IE 6 preferences. I solved that particular problem by creating a style sheet just for that person; the size and colour was set to best for them. If I had thought of this style sheets switcher then, it would have been very useful; creating a different style sheet for each user that comes up against this same problem is not a workable solution. A user can create their own style sheet - but not everybody knows how to do it. All the best, Jim on 11/5/03 12:25 PM, tina@greytower.net at tina@greytower.net wrote: Nice site. May I, please, ask you to include the CITE attribute for quotations which are to be found online ? It's really difficult to peck around the text for the original otherwise. Thanks! > I would interested to know if there are reasons why this approach might not > be a good idea? The reliance on cookies and the caching problem both seem to me good reasons. However, for me and people I have discussed this issue with, the main reason not to recommend this is quite different, and a matter of social engineering. Consider a user visiting such a site. Firstly, the UA must be capable of CSS, of cookies, and of adjusting the *visual* interface through CSS. Secondly, the adjustment controls will be present whether or not your UA has these capabilities or not. Thirdly, the adjustments you make are not persistent - as soon as you leave that particular site, they go away. Users I've spoken to would much prefer a short tutorial on how to change their own settings to a site-specific control system. But is this a drawback ? I'd say yes. Users don't know how to adjust their UA - so tell them how. That will atleast confuse them less. > You can also read Gez Lemons' article and the get the scripts for his ASP > version at: http://www.juicystudio.com/ This site pushes several of my buttons. Firstly, it claims to serve text/html[*] - I'm looking at the content-type here - but the DOCTYPE claims XHTML 1.0 Strict and the *content* claims it is validated to XHTML 1.1. Secondly, it claims WCAG 1.0 'AAA' - which, if nothing else, the link texts should make clear it is not. When I look through the list of links in my UA, I can make neither head nor tail out of "1". I think we should all try to be examples. Please ? [*] We also need to improve our site in this, and many other, ways. That project is nearing completion.
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