- From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
- Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:10:30 +0100
- To: "Jens Meiert" <jens.meiert@erde3.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
I'll third this review. I've raised this issue on so many occasions over the past ~4-5 years that I'd just about given up on ever seeing anything done about it. check the thread "QED & Marshall McLuhan" about demonstrating rather than talking about..... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/1999AprJun/0361.html The failure to use plain English, and ' not really communicating what it's even about' are particular problems. I find outreach extremely difficult as most people find WAI deeply geeky. The rationale as explained to me is that the 'audience' is software developers. Working in education, as I do, means that nearly all the work on business use is irrelevant, at least in the introduction. The nearest to something reasonable might be http://www.w3.org/Talks/WAI-Intro/slide1-0.html However slide 2 has to be seen to be believed. if an explanation is needed, wouldn't a help link be sufficient? shifting the discussion to wai-site-comments@w3.org isn't appropriate. A major change of function is required, and this effects all members, not just website admin. Jonathan On Saturday, October 11, 2003, at 02:51 pm, Jens Meiert wrote: > > Hi *, > > > the following part is not supposed to be an allegation, but only a > factual > remark -- when I just visited the WAI Web site (I often look at the > source > code first when visiting a site; sort of developer syndrome, I guess), > some more > or less important issues striked me, most of them related to > Accessibility, > as a matter of course. > > So I e.g. wondered why the WAI doesn't use Accesskeys on its site, nor > is it > fulfilling the own goals in relation to table use (the tables don't > comply > with real data tables, and they don't use any <caption />, either, as > discussed in about 1,000 mails before). The WAI also passes on > alternative styles > (e.g. for aural use) and it also uses color schemes where I don't know > if they > are that perfect (because of the minor contrast). > > There are of course several other topics related to this WAI > figurehead, but > I'm too lazy to list them all, so I only decided to put an additional > Bobby > analysis link in here: > > http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/bobbyServlet? > URL=http://www.w3.org/WAI/&output=Submit&gl=wcag1-aaa&test= > > -- By the way, although the WAI Web site might be a quite simple site, > it > also brings up some Usability problems by not really communicating > what it's > even about, and breaking standards by e.g. linking the WAI logo to the > WAI Web > site (although you're already there; it's recommended not to link to > the > start page if you're quite there) or putting the navigation to the > right side. > And 'switch column layout' is just an unnecessary and confusing > gimmick. > > Only some thoughts to lead the Web to its full potential ;) And > seriously: I > think the WAI WG should set a good example, and it should be in our own > interest to show how it's done best. > > > All the best, > Jens. > > > -- > Jens Meiert > Interface Architect > > http://meiert.com > > Jonathan Chetwynd http://www.peepo.co.uk "A web by people with learning difficulties"
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