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RE: Microsoft make an article about alt text...

From: Harry Woodrow <harrry@email.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:48:57 +0800
To: "Tina Marie Holmboe" <tina@elfi.org>
Cc: "Tom Gilder" <w3c@tom.me.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
I refered to the problem that Tom identified not any other.  The ALT text on
the images of the page were what Tom indicated and that is I feel well
covered by the HTML.  Neither I nor Tom refered to other issues and Tina did
not in ner reply.

Harry Woodrow

-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Marie Holmboe [mailto:tina@elfi.org]
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 2:53 AM
To: Harry Woodrow
Cc: Tom Gilder; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: Microsoft make an article about alt text...

On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:29:32PM +0800, Harry Woodrow wrote:

> But each of the images are clearly identified with their figure number in
> the html and good and bad text equivalents are given.

  If you refer to the page that Tom Gilder posted an URL to, then what
  on the screen - and I am sighted - is:

   Rate this page: 9 users
   [FF3300.gif] [FF3300.gif] [FF3300.gif] [ts.gif] [ts.gif] [ts.gif]
    2.2 out of 5

  The output on a theoretical - I have none, hence theoretical - Braille or
  Speech system might be interesting, if not rich in content.

  "Rate this page: nine users left bracket eff eff thirtythree zero zero
   dot gif right bracket eff eff ... "

> Isn't the purpose of accessibility that the site can be accessed.  Or is
> a slavish technical excercise.

  Yes, it can be accessed - but it isn't accessible. If someone read the
  above to me, I'd be rather put off about the rest of the content. Granted,
  it is a minor detail since the images in question exist only at the top
  and the rest is quite readable, but it is still an example of
  misunderstanding the idea of accessibility.

  Sure, a person in a wheelchair CAN get into a store even if the entrance
  is not explicitly created to accomodate wheelchair access - for instance
  if 3-4 strong fellows carry him or her. That doesn't mean the store is
  *accessible*, even if he/she can get into it.

  Making a site accessible *isn't* a technical exercise - it is about making
  a site work so that noone needs to go through extra loops just to extract
  the content they come for. I can't imagine having to listen to all those
  filenames on a speech system just to get to the content below, in
  when adding an empty ALT-text is such an easy thing to do.

  Though ... personally I find their use of BLOCKQUOTE worse. Had I as a
  user added something like:

    cue-before: url(AndIQuote.wav) ;

  to a personal stylesheet, that page might get awfully confusing ...

 -    Tina Holmboe                    Greytower Technologies
   tina@greytower.net                http://www.greytower.net/
   [+46] 0708 557 905

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