- From: Mike Scott <mscott2@msfw.com>
- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:39:57 -0600
- To: "'SHARPE, Ian'" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>, "'WAI \(E-mail\)'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Ian, Just to clarify - the image is not part of the link, so there really is only one link - so if your screen reader ignores images with alt = "" (null), you wouldn't hear anything to indicate that the image is there. Also, as is, the cursor wouldn't change into a hand (since the image isn't really a link), although we could get it to do so using CSS cursor: pointer... Still no good? Mike -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of SHARPE, Ian Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:10 AM To: WAI (E-mail) Subject: RE: Creative (?) solution for redundant links Don't like it I'm affraid. From a visually impared point of view I would simply think that the page creator had forgotten to alt tag the image. There is no way for me to know that the two links are actually the same. I would just see the cursor change to a hand indicating a link but no hover text which I rely on when using images as links. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: David Poehlman [mailto:poehlman1@comcast.net] Sent: 11 March 2002 16:53 To: Mike Scott; 'WAI (E-mail)' Subject: Re: Creative (?) solution for redundant links Jaws has a bug that forces the file name of the image to be rendered even though it is alt="" but it is not rendered as a link therefore the strategy might be effective. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Scott" <mscott2@msfw.com> To: "'WAI (E-mail)'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: Creative (?) solution for redundant links We've talked a few times about the problems of the common "image followed by text" link situation -- in particular, that we may want to allow sighted users to click on either the image or text, but we'd rather avoid making screen reader users hear the same link text repeated twice (the image's alt text followed by the text link). What if we did something like this (HTML code follows): <img src="image.gif" alt="" onclick="document.location='newpage.html';"> <a href="newpage.html">Link Text</a> (i.e., use a javascript "onclick" on the image to load the new page if the image is clicked.) The image alt wouldn't show up in a screen reader's links list, and with alt = null, it wouldn't be read; at the same time, if a sighted user (whose browser supported javascript) clicked on the image, it would act as if it were a link. Without javascript, clicking the image would simply do nothing, but the text link would still work. Of course, this scenario would only apply if the image and the text link were exactly redundant, and when the layout of the page was preventing us from simply putting a single link element around both. Thoughts??? Mike ________________________________________________________________________ ___ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ________________________________________________________________________ ___
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