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RE: GW Micro Helps Make Macromedia Flash Content Accessible to People Who Are Blind

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:02:54 -0500 (EST)
To: RUST Randal <RRust@COVANSYS.com>
cc: "WAI (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0203050956210.5599-100000@smarty.smart.net>
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, RUST Randal wrote:

> >I use a Macintosh
> >and it is bad enough not being able to see many websites because they
> >are coded for the Microsoft users of this world.
> You can't fault web designers for building sites that work in the browser
> that is used by about 91% of internet users
> (http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp).  Now I know those
> stats are probably a little skewed, but it can't be by that much.  And
> please don't get started on the whole "Microsoft is a monopoly thing."  
> If you want to be able to view all of these supposed web sites that don't
> work, then you should be helping to promote web standards.  Designers build

THERE IS A WEB STANDARD, HTML, ASCII TEXT  why the bloody *ell do they
have to keep reinventing the wheel.   the latest and greatest can read a
HTML ascii text site and the oldest DOS 1.1 can read it, so it is
"plain" is that a sin???

> sites to reach the largest audience possible.  This is a simple fact of

no designers build the sites to show off their latest "whiz bang" whistle
and bell...

> life.  I'm not saying this is necessarily the right way, but it is certainly
> the reality of things.
> >The Window-Eyes Professional software for Windows 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP
> >Home Edition, and XP Professional retails for $795.00,

why should a person with a disability even need to buy another piece of
software just so the web designer can be a little lazy and not put in the
"alt" text.

  I'm sorry but it is NOT the people with disabilities (or who just don't
want this stuff) who are broke.  it is the people who seem to think PWD
need to be "fixed" so they can hobble through the minefield of complex

> I suppose you expect they'd give it away for free, or sell it for $30?
> Sometimes the expectations that people have are just silly.

No I don't expect people to work for free, I expect that it shouldn't even
be needed...it is a product in search of a problem, and website designers
are given another excuse for not designing correctly.   


> Randal
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Simon White [mailto:simon.white@jkd.co.uk]
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:28 AM
> >To: Nick Kew; Aaron Smith
> >Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> >Subject: RE: Fwd: GW Micro Helps Make Macromedia Flash Content
> >Accessible to People Who Are Blind
> >
> >
> >Dear All,
> >I happen to share some of the sentiments that are expressed on 
> >this list
> >following the announcement of the new Flash software. I use a Macintosh
> >and it is bad enough not being able to see many websites because they
> >are coded for the Microsoft users of this world. So, should I buy a new
> >PC with all the latest kit just so I can 'see' this latest and greatest
> >Flash website? I think not, and I don't think that I should be forced
> >into doing so.
> >
> >While I think that Macromedia is doing the right thing in addressing
> >accessibility of its multimedia software and how it is viewed, I guess
> >that many would agree that this type of product would be better if it
> >incorporated all users, regardless of hardware or software.
> >
> >One last thing: has anyone on the list tested this software? I just
> >remember the AOL debacle...
> >
> >Kind regards
> >
> >Simon
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nick Kew [mailto:nick@webthing.com]
> >Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 22:32
> >To: Aaron Smith
> >Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: GW Micro Helps Make Macromedia Flash Content
> >Accessible to People Who Are Blind
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Aaron Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> >Ahem, excuse me!  $795, plus the cost of Windows, plus the cost of
> >hardware capable of running windows!  Not to mention the serious
> >hassle of mopping up each new "virus"!!
> >
> >How the **** is that supposed to be "accessible" to any but a tiny
> >minority of the richest blind people?
> >
> >It's good that you're providing such products, but only so long as
> >noone starts using it as an excuse for neglecting users of lower-
> >cost systems!
> >
> >-- 
> >Nick Kew
> >
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> >
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