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RE: WA - background-image in CSS

From: RUST Randal <RRust@COVANSYS.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:27:07 -0500
Message-ID: <37925254B67DD311876C009027B0FF9201D3A666@cbscolex01.cbsinc.com>
To: "'Harry Woodrow'" <harrry@email.com>, RUST Randal <RRust@COVANSYS.com>, "'Access Systems'" <accessys@smart.net>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
no.  if i design a page on my website to be accessible by all browsers and
all AT, and i decide that a background image is not relative content, so i
put it in as a CSS background, that is my opinion, and that is my right as
the author of the page.

as a journalist, i find the point of view that the user has control over
what i determine is essential is simply ludicrous.

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Woodrow [mailto:harrry@email.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:20 AM
To: RUST Randal; 'Access Systems'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: WA - background-image in CSS

That should be exactly what he should be saying.
If you think you have the right to discriminate between what users of your
page receive based on their disability I suggest you read the definition of
discrimination and ask any of the disability representative organizations.
You can think what you want but when you make that public there are
responsibilities both morally and legally that you do so in a non
discriminatory manner.

Harry Woodrow

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of RUST Randal
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2002 10:10 PM
To: 'Access Systems'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: WA - background-image in CSS

Think about what you are saying here.  You are saying that the USER should
be able to determine what is important on the PAGE THAT I HAVE AUTHORED!?
If this is your view of the web, then what is the point of anyone even
posting a web page?

The author of the page is the one who determines what is essential.  This is
the basis of such things as "blogging" and personal journals.

What if you wrote a page, and eliminated a paragraph before you post it.
Are you saying that the user that the author should leave it, and let the
user decide if it should stay or not?

-----Original Message-----
From: Access Systems [mailto:accessys@smart.net]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:56 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: WA - background-image in CSS

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, RUST Randal wrote:

my opinion only ! (well maybe not just me but I do not speak for others)

> blind user gets the same ESSENTIAL CONTENT as the user who can see the

users with disabilities or other reasons for using alternative screen
  DESERVE AND ARE ENTITLED TO ALL THE CONTENT, who are "you" to determine
what is "essential" content to me

THIS IS ONE of the major complaints of almost all people with disabilities
in all areas of access.  NO ONE!, period, has the right to determine my
needs and priorities.

*you and me as used is generic and not intended to mean any one individual
** really one of my major peeves!
*** shouting is intentional and needed

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