- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:11:39 -0500
- To: <snip@hellbusch.de>, "Scarlett Julian \(ED\)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
alt+"" is correct here but the at that reads it as image.gif is in error since it is empty, there should be nothing available to the screen reader unless the screen reader preference is set to read the file name of any element that has no alternative. Jfw does not have such a function and therefore has a bug i its implementation. Further, using this as a fall back for conveying the impression of the image is not good since you may want to convey by the colored image that something is new, on sale or discontinued to name a couple of examples. In this case, the obvious choice or alt is "new", "on sale" and or "discontinued". You can even use ! in them to get the point across better. Jfw does not even recognize alt="*" or *-" which is unfortunate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Eric Hellbusch" <hellbusch@web.de> To: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>; "'David Poehlman'" <poehlman1@home.com>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: AW: Bobby inaccuracy? > I was under the impression that for images that convey no meaning whatsoever > it was best to include an empty alt text thus alt="" That is what I have been doing, too. We did some testing with several screen readers incl. JFW3.7 on that and decided to leave out the alt text out for coloring and other layout images. The reason for doing this is very simple: if there is no alt text, our test screen readers read the file name by default instead. We went on to name the GIFs something like "blueline.gif", "red-ball.gif" and so on. The point is that by using many images for layout the audio output becomes endless, if each (meaningless) image has an alt text. On the other hand, screen reader users are able to opt out of having each image being read and accounted for and can configure the screen reader to ignore images, let’s say, under 10px width or height (assuming there is no alt text). In this case, larger images on the site such as logo and some eye catchers received attention by the screen readers and the others _usually_ not; and if so, they were read "meaningful", e.g. "blueline gif". Jan
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