- From: Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples@mtu-net.ru>
- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:46:07 +0000
- To: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>, WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
On Saturday 05 January 2002 20:19, Joe Clark wrote: [...] | I'm all for CSS layouts. I'm also all for table layouts. I use both, | actually. Someday, when I really figure out how to use CSS layouts | and all the browser bugs are worked out (all-stylesheet layouts are What browser bugs are you speaking about? replacement of <font> with <span> is already great by itself, and things like this work fine even in old NN 4.7 Many CSS rules work fine in MS IE 5.0, which is so far is de-facto standard on the web (around 80% of all visitors) Good example of high-traffic site which exactly did transition like this is www.news.com (C-Net news) They changed from <font> to <span>/<div> and CSS around one year ago (beginning of 2001), and rsulting page size decreased from around 60K to 22K-25K. I have both types of their pages saved on disk, and can send to people interested in those changes by mail off-list. | ten times harder to get right cross-platform than tables), I'll | convert en masse. We have not reached that day, and nagging at people | to stop using tables for layout when CSS is so very difficult and | buggy *and* when real-world adaptive technology handles tables just | fine simply is not getting us anywhere. as soon as other browsers (Mozilla, in particular) support display: inline-block CSS property, I see no real reason to use tables for layouts. You can do inline layouting of blocks using ... 'inline-block' property At a moment, { display: inline-block } is supported by MS IE6 and MacIE 5.x other IMPORTANT NOTE: * * * * * * there is no warranty that TABLEs will be supported by future (X)HTML sepcifications. And Tables module is *optional* in CSS3 - it is *not required*. Therefor, you can face browser in the future, which is fully standard compliant and can't layout tables at all - as ... it doesn't need it! * * * * * * | | I am perfectly aware, by the way, of the vast repositories of | ready-made CSS designs available out there, like | <http://glish.com/css/> and the list at | <http://www.zeldman.com/exit.html>. I have a hard time getting those | to work, either. Check www.css.nu They have nice examples how to work-around existing bugs. -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) 33 Window Decorations and 6 Widget Styles for KDE http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html KDE mini-Themes http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/
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