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RE: more CSS and tables

From: Michael R. Burks <mburks952@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:47:55 -0500
To: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "WAI-IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NEBBJFEIALPLCLHAPJAICEOAGCAA.mburks952@worldnet.att.net>
I also agree,

this lays it out the way it is, and it is why people still use tables and it
is why I use them...I wish the CSS issues were not there...it is such a
terrific idea, and so hard to get right when laying out pages.

I would add that a good "visual" editor is going to be necessary for some of
us! I cannot translate hard code into the way things lay out on a page, not
from the code to the page.  I have to have some kind of way to figure where
the elements are going to me.  That may just be me, but it is what I need, I
suspect others will as well.


Mike Burks

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Kynn Bartlett
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:35 PM
To: Joe Clark; WAI-IG
Subject: Re: more CSS and tables

At 3:19 PM -0500 1/5/02, Joe Clark wrote:
>I'm all for CSS layouts. I'm also all for table layouts. I use both,
>actually. Someday, when I really figure out how to use CSS layouts
>and all the browser bugs are worked out (all-stylesheet layouts are
>ten times harder to get right cross-platform than tables), I'll
>convert en masse. We have not reached that day, and nagging at
>people to stop using tables for layout when CSS is so very difficult
>and buggy *and* when real-world adaptive technology handles tables
>just fine simply is not getting us anywhere.

Joe and I agree 100% on this issue, I think. I agree with everything he
wrote here.


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