- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:26:41 -0400
- To: phoenixl <phoenixl@sonic.net>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
It does not help me at all. A bunch of things are being confused here. In order to speed the process of using a web page, one needs to take into account several factors and none of them are listed here. First, One needs to make sure that access is not deminished for some in favor of some. next, one needs to really know how to use their tool. If you are using jaws for windows for instance, there a number of possibilities. If a page has frames, you can get a list of the frames. You can get a list of links and actually have them presented in several orders depe ding on whether or not you have visitted them. then it becomes, visitted only, alphabetical list of all or tab ordered list of all. Newly added is the ability to be presented with a list of headings on a page and this is usefull when pages are propperly marked up. If she wants to talk to us, she should join the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "phoenixl" <phoenixl@sonic.net> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Testing web page accessibility by phone Hi, A blind woman sent me this message and said I could post it to this mailing list. She has some interesting comments on the "time" issue. Scott ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Scott My name is _______________, and I am a blind computer user who has been on the Net since about 1993. I got to be part of that study the Nielsen-Norman Group did last year, and I was tremendously impressed by the thoroughness of their methods. I have also beta tested a few web sites and products, and am currently alpha testing an accessible online poker game. I think the best approach is to have the tester in voice contact with the company developer or researcher. The biggest hrudle in testing accessibility is to convey to the product or software devloper the level of accessibility and usability experienced by the disabled user. A user with limited mobility would not be expected to spend twenty minutes locating and acitvating the necessary switch/button.etc., but frequently blind users are expected to hunt and search and go through extremely lengthy and frustrating processes in order to have equal access, and this is what is called "accessibility". Only by having the researcher experience the same length of time and frustrations the blind user experiences will the researcher comprehend all the possible shortcomings of the product. I have pointed this out a couple of times to other companies I have worked with, and they are always surprised when I point out that just because it takes a sighted user five seconds or less to visually see and click on an accessible button on a web page, for example, does not mean that a blind user with a screen reader can locate and confirm this is the appropriate button in less than five minutes. In closing, the researcher needs to go through the precise experience the user has, and voice contact is the only method I can think of for this. I suppose a close second would be to give the user access to a web site where the researcher can track the user's process online through the server but this does not seem to offer the same level of feedback as live voice contact would. Hope this helps.
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