- From: SHARPE, Ian <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:44:23 +0100
- To: "WAI (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Don't want to be a party pooper but I personally am a little skeptical whether this approach would be of any use. I'm not saying it wouldn't or couldn't work but practically I don't feel it would produce satisfactory results. Firstly, and this is a political point that |I know others on the list feel strongly about, it's not going to help our cause for simply providing accessible sites in the first place which is hopefully our ultimate goal? I am a little more pragmatic lets say and so if I felt something would help in the meantime to resolve existing issues without effecting our goal then I would be glad to see it done. However, I don't feel this approach is such a thing. From a practical point of view let's consider a flash site. Unless the flash contains appropriate information and assuming the recently announced flash accessibility techniques could be used appropriately you still wouldn't get any sense out. There's many other situations this approach would have difficulties but I won't go on. The cases where the approach would be useful I believe can be solved using existing techniques such as browser configuration, stylesheets etc and suspect a greater awareness and availability of these type of client solutions would probably be more beneficial. As I said, I don't mean to be negative and I would be more than happy to be proved wrong!! Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Nick Kew [mailto:nick@webthing.com] Sent: 18 April 2002 21:55 To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Accessibility Proxy seeks interested ISPs This is a proposal with a lot of potential for improving web accessibility, but it needs support (i.e. willingness to deploy it for customers) from ISPs. I am posting it here in the hope that some readers may be able to suggest ISPs likely to be interested in the proposal. BACKGROUND ========== According to RNIB figures, there are 1.7 million visually impaired people in the UK. Various other possibly-relevant disability statistics have recently been posted to this list. Disabled people will often be at a disadvantage in everyday activities such as shopping or going to the library, so in principle the Web has proportionally more to offer to them than to the fully able-bodied. Although the disabled are in no sense a homogenous group, they should be seen as a natural market to providers of Internet-based services. Whereas a well-designed website is by definition accessible to such people without undue effort or frustration, many thousands of websites place wholly unnecessary obstacles in the way of disabled users: for example, illegible small text and colour schemes, text-as-images, and misuse of frames, scripting, flash, or other forms of presentation. Pages presenting problems are represented in every sector, from the personal homepage through to household-name corporate and government sites. On the one hand, increasing awareness of the issue and the law should help improve the situation over time; on the other hand, there are a lot of seriously defective authoring and publishing tools, and ignorance is notoriously hard to cure. PROPOSAL ======== As a solution to improving accessibility on the web as a whole, an ISP could offer an Accessibility Proxy to users, undertaking content repair on-the-fly. Existing systems such as the Site Valet toolkit demonstrate the feasibility of repairing content, and mod_xml now provides the necessary technology foundation for us to undertake such repairs in real time, even on a heavily-loaded server or proxy. I also anticipate using it to enable a substantial expansion to the range of problems we can automatically repair. The advantage to users is not only much-improved web accessibility. It can also help with the most fundamental problem of many disabled users: the cost (real or perceived) of getting online in the first place. The minimum requirement for users of the proposed proxy has virtually no cost: "throwaway" secondhand hardware and free software will suffice for many users to get online. To the ISP, this will enable you to offer a much-enhanced service to a substantial group, as well as bring in new users. For the first ISP(s) to offer such services, there could also be some very positive publicity. To take this project forward, I need to make contact with ISPs who would be interested in offering such a service, either installed on their own networks or operated as a webservice. Any leads, or forwarding of this message, will be much appreciated. -- Nick Kew Site Valet - the mark of Quality on the Web. <URL:http://valet.webthing.com/> ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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