- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:41:30 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>
- cc: <jon@spinsol.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I agree that the purist should go with div elements, and some kind of border seperating them. I guess that is what is anticipated by the newer specifications - I also recognise that in a visual rendering the line that appears is extremely helpful. Actually I thought hr stood for Have a Rest - in other words step back and start in some slightly fresh context. So, to rely on CSS, or to use hr for now - that is the question... (at least as I see it) Charles McCN On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Sean B. Palmer wrote: [I've been wondering about this for ages now] > <hr> has a semantic meaning - My current thinking is that sometimes, <hr /> represents "new context". A horizontal rule is a separator between two less related parts of a document, hence the big horizontal rule in the way. It is unfortunate that it is called "hr", for "nc - or newcontext" would have been much better, but there you are. If you use it as a newcontext marker, you should set some kind of aural property as well:- hr { pause-before: 2s; } To show that it marks up a new context, or even play some kind of sound. I still don't often use "<hr />" preferring instead to use <div class="newcontext"> or <div class="islandcontext"> or whatever, because I'm a purist and I still see <hr /> as being defined [1] in HTML 4.01 [2] as a horizontal rule across the page, rather than a semantic element indicating a change in context. <hr /> is not included in XHTML Basic, and as part of the presentational module of XHTML m12n, I consider it to be deprecated. [1] "The HR element causes a horizontal rule to be rendered by visual user agents." [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html401 -- Kindest Regards, Sean B. Palmer @prefix : <http://webns.net/roughterms/> . :Sean :hasHomepage <http://infomesh.net/sbp/> . -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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