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Re: Fw: Disturbing trend in tables

From: Tina Marie Holmboe <tina@elfi.elfi.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:15:54 +0100
Message-ID: <20010111001554.B4032@elfi.elfi.org>
To: Ben Canning <bencan@microsoft.com>, "'Jim Thatcher'" <jimthatcher@yahoo.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:37:10AM -0800, Ben Canning wrote:

> I'm curious about the frequent claims about the 'evilness' of FrontPage and
> other WYSIWYG editors. I would _love_ to see _specific_ examples of 'bad'
> HTML generated by FrontPage (or DreamWeaver) and how you got the HTML
> generated. 

  I can't *quote* you code right now, as I have neither program installed
  at this time, but I *was* employed by a Scandinavian 'web beaureu' to do
  a quality review of Frontpage 2000 at one point. The result was indeed
  fascinating; and whilst a (don't ASK; you should have seen the contract)
  NDA prohibits me from quoting myself, I can mention a fun effect of using
  _Dreamweaver_ (at that point banned from the project at hand)

  Write an IMG tag, and include an ALT="". Save. Reload; and the ALT=""
  is - automagically - turned into an ... ALT. Period. No "". Which gives
  interesting effects in many non-graphical browsers.

> On the other hand, if you're condemning us because you played around with
> FP97 a few years ago and it did something you didn't like, I encourage you
> to give FP2000 a try and see if doesn't work better than you think. (And no,
> that's not a cheap attempt to get you to go buy FP ;)

  I am tempted to break out that old document, and get it un-NDA'd ... let
  me see what I can do - I hate to refuse a challenge.

 - Tina
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