- From: Aaron Smith <aaron@gwmicro.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:15:27 -0500
- To: Laurie Davis-Covin <ldavisco@nist.gov>
- Cc: "Steven McCaffrey" <SMCCAFFR@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>, <charles@w3.org>, <poehlman1@home.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <graham_oliver@yahoo.com>, mike@gwmicro.com
No problem. We'll learn together. At 03:17 PM 5/31/2001 -0400, Laurie Davis-Covin wrote: >Sorry, Aaron, just got a little carried away. I'm learning, too. > >At 02:03 PM 5/31/01 -0500, Aaron Smith wrote: >>I don't want to get this off topic, but we simply recommend a frames >>supporting browser, although our page does read fine in Lynx. The pixels >>can be resized in IE when the proper accessibility options are >>implemented (ie. "Ignore font size specified on Web pages"). >> >>One of the main reasons that I joined this list to was learn more about >>what we, as an Adaptive Technology Company, can do to make our site even >>more accessible, not to be bashed because of our current design. >> >>At 02:22 PM 5/31/2001 -0400, Laurie Davis-Covin wrote: >>>excuse me, but I have to jump in here. I just viewed that site with >>>Lynx. GWMicro tells its users (David knows this) that because the site >>>is designed with frames, it's recommended that IE be used, AND a >>>resolution of 800x600. And, they are using pixels; can't re-size the >>>text. And, there's more... I apologize for not following the >>>'string'. Thank you. >>> >>>At 10:53 AM 5/31/01 -0500, Aaron Smith wrote: >>>>Has anyone reviewed the results with Window-Eyes? (http://www.gwmicro.com) >>>> >>>> >>>>At 11:15 AM 5/31/2001 -0400, Steven McCaffrey wrote: >>>>>Hello Charles: >>>>> >>>>> Good question. I don't want to generalize, so let me just give >>>>> an example that does work. The example in section 11.2 of the >>>>>HTML Techniques for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 works >>>>>fine. I hear >>>>>"First name colon edit" >>>>>then I hit tab and hear: >>>>>"Last name colon edit" >>>>>which is fine. >>>>>The snipet for the first name is: >>>>> >>>>> <LABEL for="firstname">First name: </LABEL> >>>>> <INPUT type="text" id="firstname" tabindex="1"> >>>>> >>>>>Note my comments above are not about grouping form controls which is >>>>>the main point of 11.2. I am just commenting on the label element. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org> 05/31/01 09:50AM >>> >>>>>If they have labels (using the label element) does this improve things? >>>>> >>>>>Charles McCN >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steven McCaffrey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Charles: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm using JFW 3.31. I will just hear "edit". >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>> Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org> 05/31/01 08:43AM >>> >>>>> Thanks Steven, Dave. >>>>> >>>>> Can you please explain what software you're using, and what happens? >>>>> >>>>> cheers >>>>> >>>>> Chaals >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steven McCaffrey wrote: >>>>> Hello: >>>>> I agree with David in that it is still an issue. The >>>>> consequence is >>>>> that I will hear only "Edit" but will not know what type of >>>>> information is requested. >>>>> >>>>> Steve McCaffrey >>>>> Information Technology Services >>>>> NYSED >>>>> >>> "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> 05/31/01 07:49AM >>> >>>>> it is still an issue although many have solved it. even though >>>>> you have >>>>> to rub the text out, it is best to have something telling you >>>>> where to >>>>> write because some renderings still confuse labels with edit boxes. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> the rationale for this one was that there were assistive >>>>> technology and >>>>> browser combinations that would skip over empty form controls. I >>>>> am not >>>>> certain, but I believe that this is no longer an issue. I will >>>>> ask the >>>>> Web Content Accessibility Guidelines group to address this >>>>> question as >>>>> fast as possible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 >>>>>409 134 136 >>>>>W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 >>>>>617 258 5999 >>>>>Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia >>>>>(or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis >>>>>Cedex, France) >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Aaron Smith >>>>GW Micro >>>>Phone: 219/489-3671 >>>>Fax: 219/489-2608 >>>>WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com >>>>FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com >>>>Technical Support & Web Development >> >>-- >>Aaron Smith >>GW Micro >>Phone: 219/489-3671 >>Fax: 219/489-2608 >>WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com >>FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com >>Technical Support & Web Development -- Aaron Smith GW Micro Phone: 219/489-3671 Fax: 219/489-2608 WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com Technical Support & Web Development
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