- From: Laurie Davis-Covin <ldavisco@nist.gov>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:17:42 -0400
- To: Aaron Smith <aaron@gwmicro.com>
- Cc: "Steven McCaffrey" <SMCCAFFR@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>, <charles@w3.org>, <poehlman1@home.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <graham_oliver@yahoo.com>, mike@gwmicro.com
Sorry, Aaron, just got a little carried away. I'm learning, too. At 02:03 PM 5/31/01 -0500, Aaron Smith wrote: >I don't want to get this off topic, but we simply recommend a frames >supporting browser, although our page does read fine in Lynx. The pixels >can be resized in IE when the proper accessibility options are implemented >(ie. "Ignore font size specified on Web pages"). > >One of the main reasons that I joined this list to was learn more about >what we, as an Adaptive Technology Company, can do to make our site even >more accessible, not to be bashed because of our current design. > >At 02:22 PM 5/31/2001 -0400, Laurie Davis-Covin wrote: >>excuse me, but I have to jump in here. I just viewed that site with >>Lynx. GWMicro tells its users (David knows this) that because the site is >>designed with frames, it's recommended that IE be used, AND a resolution >>of 800x600. And, they are using pixels; can't re-size the text. And, >>there's more... I apologize for not following the 'string'. Thank you. >> >>At 10:53 AM 5/31/01 -0500, Aaron Smith wrote: >>>Has anyone reviewed the results with Window-Eyes? (http://www.gwmicro.com) >>> >>> >>>At 11:15 AM 5/31/2001 -0400, Steven McCaffrey wrote: >>>>Hello Charles: >>>> >>>> Good question. I don't want to generalize, so let me just give >>>> an example that does work. The example in section 11.2 of the >>>>HTML Techniques for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 works >>>>fine. I hear >>>>"First name colon edit" >>>>then I hit tab and hear: >>>>"Last name colon edit" >>>>which is fine. >>>>The snipet for the first name is: >>>> >>>> <LABEL for="firstname">First name: </LABEL> >>>> <INPUT type="text" id="firstname" tabindex="1"> >>>> >>>>Note my comments above are not about grouping form controls which is >>>>the main point of 11.2. I am just commenting on the label element. >>>> >>>> >>>>Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org> 05/31/01 09:50AM >>> >>>>If they have labels (using the label element) does this improve things? >>>> >>>>Charles McCN >>>> >>>>On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steven McCaffrey wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Charles: >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm using JFW 3.31. I will just hear "edit". >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>> Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org> 05/31/01 08:43AM >>> >>>> Thanks Steven, Dave. >>>> >>>> Can you please explain what software you're using, and what happens? >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> Chaals >>>> >>>> On Thu, 31 May 2001, Steven McCaffrey wrote: >>>> Hello: >>>> I agree with David in that it is still an issue. The >>>> consequence is >>>> that I will hear only "Edit" but will not know what type of >>>> information is requested. >>>> >>>> Steve McCaffrey >>>> Information Technology Services >>>> NYSED >>>> >>> "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> 05/31/01 07:49AM >>> >>>> it is still an issue although many have solved it. even though >>>> you have >>>> to rub the text out, it is best to have something telling you where to >>>> write because some renderings still confuse labels with edit boxes. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> ... >>>> >>>> the rationale for this one was that there were assistive >>>> technology and >>>> browser combinations that would skip over empty form controls. I >>>> am not >>>> certain, but I believe that this is no longer an issue. I will ask the >>>> Web Content Accessibility Guidelines group to address this question as >>>> fast as possible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 >>>>409 134 136 >>>>W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 >>>>617 258 5999 >>>>Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia >>>>(or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, >>>>France) >>> >>>-- >>>Aaron Smith >>>GW Micro >>>Phone: 219/489-3671 >>>Fax: 219/489-2608 >>>WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com >>>FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com >>>Technical Support & Web Development > >-- >Aaron Smith >GW Micro >Phone: 219/489-3671 >Fax: 219/489-2608 >WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com >FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com >Technical Support & Web Development >
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