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RE: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)

From: David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 06:51:14 -0500 (EST)
To: "Charles (Chuck) Oppermann" <chuckop@MICROSOFT.com>
cc: "'po@trace.wisc.edu'" <po@trace.wisc.edu>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971104065000.12617E-100000@clark.net>
those browsers which are developped to be truly accessible will not need
alt tags.  browsers which are here now have been and will be here for a
long time to come need a text map of some sort which can be totally
ignored by those who do not need them.

On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Charles (Chuck) Oppermann wrote:

> I disagree with this - so if I have a picture of a furry dog as my list
> item graphic, I as an HTML author need to always use "Item" as the ALT
> attribute?  Isn't this a misuse of the ALT attribute?  
> Via the HTML object model and Active Accessibility, screen readers will
> know they are talking to a list item already.  This guideline only helps
> down level browsers and certain screen readers with the *visual*
> presentation of the list item.
> I fear that this kind of guideline only makes adoption less likely by
> being confusing.
> Charles Oppermann
> Windows NT User Interface Group, Microsoft Corporation
> mailto:chuckop@microsoft.com http://microsoft.com/enable/
> "A computer on every desk and in every home, usable by everyone!"
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Gregg Vanderheiden [SMTP:po@trace.wisc.edu]
> 	Sent:	Monday, November 03, 1997 1:11 PM
> 	To:	w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> 	Subject:	RE: ALT-attribute usage (fwd)
> 	Perfect.  Just the feedback we needed.
> 	Unless I hear otherwise the guidelines will recommend
> 	1)  that any graphics used as bullets have the alt text  "Item"
> With a 
> 	character to cause a pause after the word.
> 	The two candidates are Comma and Semicolon.   Possibly with a
> space 
> 	afterward to keep the word from running into the next word.
> 	Couple of questions to close this one off
> 	 - Is there a consensus that there should be "item"?  (I thought
> I got one 
> 	but am not sure)
> 	- Is comma the proper character for a pause.  It is longer but
> longer may 
> 	not be better.  And Semicolon looks better visually and more
> natural so it 
> 	might get included more.     Should we use Semicolon or comma?
> 	- Is the space needed?  Can someone confirm?  Is it needed for
> comma?   Is 
> 	it needed for Semicolon?
> 	Thanks much.
> 	Gregg
> 	-- ------------------------------
> 	Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> 	Guidelines Scribe and Compiler

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