Re: Amendment to visual indicators

Hey David,
I have the opposite concern with that. If we aren't prescriptive enough,
this is something that isn't going to get tested consistently. As you
suggest, why would underline pass but bold text would not? The current text
makes that clear; it's a "non-text line". I generally do prefer being less
prescriptive, but we should make sure it doesn't come at a cost of
inconsistency during testing.

W

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 6:10 PM David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>
> An underline would pass. Bolding would not.
>
> I tried to do that with "font type", and "font size". I think of bold as a
> separate font type from its base. But underline does not have a separate
> font type.
>
> We could put that in the understanding or make it clearer in the
> definition...
>
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> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:17 AM Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@levelaccess.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi David, I like this.  Is text decoration like underline and bolding
>> included in this as well – just want to make understand if that is included
>> in font type?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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>>
>> *From:* David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2020 11:08 AM
>> *To:* Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>; Patrick H. Lauke <
>> redux@splintered.co.uk>; Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>;
>> lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; Abi James (abi.james@me.com) <
>> abi.james@me.com>; Rachael Bradley Montgomery <
>> rachael@accessiblecommunity.org>; Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>;
>> WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
>> *Subject:* Amendment to visual indicators
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>> Hi All
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>>
>>
>> Patrick and Detlev have raised concerns about thendefinition of
>> visual indicators that we should not try to be overly prescriptive on how
>> they look. COGA is mostly concerned that visual indicators to progress not
>> rely only on font type/size or spacing to indicator a control is necessary
>> to progress through a process. SO I've turned around the SC to mat the
>> approach used in the "Color alone
>> <https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/use-of-color.html>" SC.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's the same requirements in the SC but now we wouldn't need to use or
>> define Visual indicators. It would need a new short name (i.e. "Process
>> indicators")
>>
>>
>>
>> ==============
>>
>> Spacing, font type, and/or font size are not used as the only visual
>> means of conveying that controls are actionable if they are necessary to do
>> the following:
>>
>>    -
>>    - initiate a
>>    - process <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-processes>
>>    -
>>    -
>>    - progress
>>    - through a process
>>    -
>>    -
>>    - complete
>>    - a process
>>    -
>>    -
>>    - return
>>    - to a previous part of a process
>>    -
>>
>>
>>
>> *Exception:* the control is part of a group of controls that has a
>> visual indicator for the group
>>
>>
>>
>> ===============
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>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WhZAbswvPHs7A3stfqM_ATsaBHPeGbHtARcmaKMck1U/edit?usp=sharing
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