- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:30:32 -0500
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKdCpxxCbNhJosoEb+NPMntBgiwsXBmJnO5yTPX6NXUyL7dYAA@mail.gmail.com>
Thanks Alastair. JF On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:56 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > > > It’s a useful exercise to see if we can simplify things. > > > > In this case, we’re proposing to take out the ‘blocks of content’ bit, and > when you drop the whole SC text (new version > <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/wcag/wcag22-findable-help-updates/understanding/22/findable-help.html>) > into Hemingway it comes out as Grade 5. > > > > Also, given the bullets underneath I think it would read awkwardly to have > two bullets followed by a separate set of 4 bullets, we’d have to take the > SC as a whole into consideration. > > > > However, hopefully we all find the new version reads more easily just by > virtue of having less stuff in it… > > > > -Alastair > > > > > > *From:* John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com> > *Sent:* 17 June 2020 21:58 > *To:* Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; > public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org> > *Subject:* Editorial formatting (was CFC - Add Findable Help to WCAG 2.2 > draft) > > > > Hi All, > > > > Putting aside the subject of this CfC for a minute, as I was looking at > this another thing struck me: the originally proposed opening sentence was > difficult for me to parse. Being a big fan of the Hemingway App, I went > over there and gave it a whirl. > > The originally proposed text* in github: > > > > [alt: screen capture of the GitHub page showing the new "diff" addition of > text] > > > > HTML stripped and pasted into Hemingway App: > > [alt: screen capture of the text pasted into the HemingwayApp Editor. It > also shows a reading score of "Post-graduate"] > > > > As I suspected, the "readability" score of that sentence was determined to > be "Post-graduate". Ouch. > > > > Then I tried a bit of reformatting of that text, like so: > > > > *For single page apps or any set of web pages with blocks of content that > are repeated on multiple web pages:* > > * * if one of the following is available, * > > * * then at least one of the following is included or linked in a > consistent location.* > > > > [alt: screen capture of the reformatted text pasted into the HemingwayApp > Editor. It now shows a reading score of "Grade 6"] > > Now, I recognize that not everyone agrees that "reading score" has a value > for all users with cognitive disabilities, but it also strikes me that with > some simple formatting we can make our requirements and proposed > requirements easier to read for everyone, and I think at some point we may > have lost sight of that here. > > > > I also understand that this CfC has not passed, so this proposed SC is > being put aside for now as we race toward our publishing deadlines for WCAG > 2.2. None-the-less, I encourage us all to try and remember to try and say > things simply and clearly, and to check not only the substance of our work, > but also when required, the presentation of our work. > > > > Thanks all! > > > > JF > > > > * the text proposed: For single page apps or any set of web pages with > blocks of content that are repeated on multiple web pages, if one of the > following is available, then at least one of the following is included or > linked in a consistent location: > > > -- > John Foliot | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative > > Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good > deque.com > > "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." - > Pascal "links go places, buttons do things" > > > > > -- *John Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good deque.com "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." - Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"
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