RE: Question about SC 2.4.3 Focus Order

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On May 29, 2020, 12:14 PM -0400, Christopher Loiselle <chris.loiselle@oracle.com>, wrote:
> +1 to JF’s interpretation.
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> From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 12:07 PM
> To: Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov>
> Cc: WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; 508 <508@access-board.gov>
> Subject: Re: Question about SC 2.4.3 Focus Order
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> Hi Bruce,
>
> +1:  yes, of course
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> > > ...navigated sequentially:  navigated in the order defined for advancing focus
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>  I think the key is the term 'advancing', which suggests 'forward' (as opposed to backward) movement.
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> Logic (to me) suggests that *IF* the 'advancing' tab order (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) is logical and appropriate when moving forward, it would stand that going in the opposite direction would expect a tab order in reverse (5, 4, 3, 2, 1).. Since the user is already consciously "reverse-advancing" (retreating?) using shift+tab, I would suspect their expectation would be that the visible tab focus proceeds in *THAT* (reversed) order.
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> My $0.02
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> JF
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> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:47 AM Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov> wrote:
> > Fellow AG'lers, I am asking that you indulge me in a quick straw poll:  Does SC 2.4.3 Focus Order include backwards navigation?
> >
> > +1:  yes, of course
> > 0:  not sure / maybe
> > -1:  no, of course not
> >
> > FWIW, the associated Understanding Doc has a contradiction between the third paragraph of Intent and the first example provide.  I will be filling an issue (and, hopefully, following up with a pull request) about that, but really I first need a sense of the group consensus before that can happen.
> >
> > Follows is 2.4.3 and the relevant affiliated definition.
> >
> > Success Criterion 2.4.3 Focus Order (Level A):  If a Web page can be navigated sequentially and the navigation sequences affect meaning or operation, focusable components receive focus in an order that preserves meaning and operability.
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> > navigated sequentially:  navigated in the order defined for advancing focus (from one element to the next) using a keyboard interface
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> > www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/focus-order.html
> > www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#focus-order
> > www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-navigated-sequentially
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