- From: Christopher Loiselle <chris.loiselle@oracle.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 09:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
- To: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>, Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov>
- Cc: "WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, 508 <508@access-board.gov>
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+1 to JF’s interpretation. From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 12:07 PM To: Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov> Cc: WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; 508 <508@access-board.gov> Subject: Re: Question about SC 2.4.3 Focus Order Hi Bruce, +1: yes, of course > ...navigated sequentially: navigated in the order defined for advancing focus I think the key is the term 'advancing', which suggests 'forward' (as opposed to backward) movement. Logic (to me) suggests that *IF* the 'advancing' tab order (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) is logical and appropriate when moving forward, it would stand that going in the opposite direction would expect a tab order in reverse (5, 4, 3, 2, 1). Since the user is already consciously "reverse-advancing" (retreating?) using shift+tab, I would suspect their expectation would be that the visible tab focus proceeds in *THAT* (reversed) order. My $0.02 JF On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:47 AM Bruce Bailey <HYPERLINK "mailto:Bailey@access-board.gov"Bailey@access-board.gov> wrote: Fellow AG'lers, I am asking that you indulge me in a quick straw poll: Does SC 2.4.3 Focus Order include backwards navigation? +1: yes, of course 0: not sure / maybe -1: no, of course not FWIW, the associated Understanding Doc has a contradiction between the third paragraph of Intent and the first example provide. I will be filling an issue (and, hopefully, following up with a pull request) about that, but really I first need a sense of the group consensus before that can happen. Follows is 2.4.3 and the relevant affiliated definition. Success Criterion 2.4.3 Focus Order (Level A): If a Web page can be navigated sequentially and the navigation sequences affect meaning or operation, focusable components receive focus in an order that preserves meaning and operability. navigated sequentially: navigated in the order defined for advancing focus (from one element to the next) using a keyboard interface HYPERLINK "https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/focus-order.html__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!KJNt4uhN4l2DiGp_afZebIje5V9eL4FKbOwGyO2bAaD2T6TQUIhJsEoX3lbT-EoYfEo$"www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/focus-order.html HYPERLINK "https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/*focus-order__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!KJNt4uhN4l2DiGp_afZebIje5V9eL4FKbOwGyO2bAaD2T6TQUIhJsEoX3lbTSDmvico$"www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#focus-order HYPERLINK "https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/*dfn-navigated-sequentially__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!KJNt4uhN4l2DiGp_afZebIje5V9eL4FKbOwGyO2bAaD2T6TQUIhJsEoX3lbTmwakTWs$"www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-navigated-sequentially -- John Foliot | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good HYPERLINK "https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/deque.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!KJNt4uhN4l2DiGp_afZebIje5V9eL4FKbOwGyO2bAaD2T6TQUIhJsEoX3lbTy7JqBIo$"deque.com "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." - Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"
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