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Re: Using preformatted text or excluding preformatting text as an exception to no two dimensional scrolling as failure for Reflow 1.4.10

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:47:26 -0600
Message-ID: <CAKdCpxz-PGuw7-BSRmx3XiWb24xMuta=iG3DkF8d1VRa7knqZw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Joshue O Connor - InterAccess <josh@interaccess.ie>
Cc: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
...and this is why I so dislike Failure Techniques...

> I'm guessing the failure per se is the use of preformatted text,


We cannot do this or say this as broadly as that. There are many instances
where pre-formatted text would be required (the most common use-case being
poetry).

Haiku:

The summer river:
although there is a bridge, my horse
goes through the water.

Example of a Robert Service
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Service> poem
<https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45081/the-cremation-of-sam-mcgee>:

On a Christmas Day we were mushing our way over the Dawson trail.
Talk of your cold! through the parka's fold it stabbed like a driven nail.
If our eyes we'd close, then the lashes froze till sometimes we couldn't
see;
It wasn't much fun, but the only one to whimper was Sam McGee.

In these examples, the formatting of the text also conveys the Pentameter
<https://literarydevices.net/pentameter/>of the rhymes/poems. Conveying
this critical literary device is wholly dependent on the formatting of the
text.

JF


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:33 AM Joshue O Connor - InterAccess <
josh@interaccess.ie> wrote:

> Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
>
> On 29/01/2019 14:30, Joshue O Connor - InterAccess wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any progress on the potential Failure "Using preformatted text or
> excluding preformatting text as an exception to no two dimensional
> scrolling". [1]
>
> I find this really difficult to parse - can anyone explain the thinking
> behind this one to me please?
>
> [1] https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/reflow.html
>
>
> I'm guessing the failure per se is the use of preformatted text, with the
> addition of wrongly thinking that it might be something that's valid to
> exclude as being required to reflow? And that in the end, the failure will
> be retitled to just "Using preformatted text" with a clear indication in
> the prose of the failure that no, it doesn't count automatically as an
> exemption?
>
> Go you.. I'm still confused but somewhat reassured that someone I know
> does understand it :-)
>
>
> P
>
>
>
> --
> Joshue O Connor
> Director | InterAccess.ie
>


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Received on Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:48:19 UTC

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