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Re: Updates to Understanding 1.4.11 part 2

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:52:08 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpvfJ7pJXf5=5+QLM_ZiBPxVUeQmNxVAAHsXqSkz_AJzs1Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, WCAG group <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, LVTF - low-vision-a11y <public-low-vision-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Hi John,

Yes, I think we certainly can encourage authors to do the right thing
in the Understanding docs and have advisory techniques. This is true
for 1.4.13 and 1.4.11.

But since we agree it is a User Agent fault, I suggest that we can't
fail authors if they don't set the outline / focus-style for 1.4.11 or
provide a title attribute fix for 1.4.13.

Kindest Regards,

On 6/13/18, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com> wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>> But the big question is: Is it an author's responsibility to solve a user
> agent issue?
> I suspect that very much depends on how you define "responsibility". If you
> are talking about "legal" responsibility, I'll side with the exception
> language, as I agree it truly is the user-agent at "fault" here.
> That said, in our Understanding documents we should be
> sufficiently transparent to note that while this *is* a currently known UA
> problem in some browsers (which may or may-not linger), it's a simple
> problem to fix, and for maximum "usability" and adherence to the spirit of
> WCAG content designers *should* address this known issue. My reasoning is
> that once designers "Understand" the problem, they can adjust to it quickly
> and easily, as the fix is quite simple: when you change one aspect of the
> design (background color) you are responsible for all of the other contrast
> changes that the initial change necessitates - that color choices are
> "paired" with contrast and visible state changes as well. In practice and
> observation during my multiple training activities, this does not appear to
> be a hard idea to grasp by the designers (in fact, on more than one
> occasion when discussing focus contrast, designers have brought this up to
> me first, as they begin to grok the issues related to visual design.)
> Thoughts?
> JF

Laura L. Carlson
Received on Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:52:35 UTC

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