Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes)

> Between now and CR we can do a little research on how this might be
accomplished without ARIA.



​It can't be done through "roles and properties" in any other language but
markup...​


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On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Repsher, Stephen J <
stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com> wrote:

> I’m fine with that, and I’m assuming others would agree so I made the
> change in the branch.  Between now and CR we can do a little research on
> how this might be accomplished without ARIA.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew Kirkpatrick [mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 01, 2017 10:06 AM
> *To:* David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>; Michael Gower <
> michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
>
> *Cc:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status
> Changes)
>
>
>
> In seeing the latest language and having a chance to confer with others
> within Adobe about this, I think that it is fair to say that this is pretty
> specifically targeted to HTML/ARIA at present. I am happy to support it,
> but only if we can add “in content implemented using markup languages” to
> make it read:
>
>
>
> “In content implemented using markup languages, status messages can be
> programmatically determined through role or properties such that they can
> be presented to the user by assistive technologies without receiving focus.”
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
>
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>
> Adobe
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> akirkpat@adobe.com
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> *From: *Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Date: *Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:44
> *To: *David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Michael Gower <
> michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> *Cc: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status
> Changes)
> *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:42
>
>
>
> Thanks David. People can view this at http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/
> status-changes/guidelines/index.html#status-changes
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> What do people think? Go to CFC or not yet?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
>
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>
> Adobe
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>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
>
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> *From: *David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> *Date: *Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:37
> *To: *Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> *Cc: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status
> Changes)
> *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:36
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>
>
> The Pull request is
>
>
>
> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/594
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> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> wrote:
>
> Here is the text which seemed to have general agreement on today's call. I
> believe the intent is to review tomorrow for CFC.
>
> 3.2.6 Status Changes
>
> Status messages
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> properties such that they can be presented to the user by assistive
> technologies
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> without receiving focus.
>
> *Status messages*
> Changes in content that are not changes in context, that provide
> information to the user on the success or results of an action, on the
> waiting state of an application, on the progress of a process, or on the
> existence of errors.
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> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/581
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> From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> To:        WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2017-11-30 12:26 PM
> Subject:        Latest updated version of Purpose of Controls
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> On the call we decided to call it “Identify Common Purpose”.
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> http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/purpose_of_controls_changes3/
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> If there are any changes we need consensus by 11:30 ET tomorrow.
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> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
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> Andrew Kirkpatrick
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