RE: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes)

I’m fine with that, and I’m assuming others would agree so I made the change in the branch.  Between now and CR we can do a little research on how this might be accomplished without ARIA.

Steve

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Subject: Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes)

In seeing the latest language and having a chance to confer with others within Adobe about this, I think that it is fair to say that this is pretty specifically targeted to HTML/ARIA at present. I am happy to support it, but only if we can add “in content implemented using markup languages” to make it read:

“In content implemented using markup languages, status messages can be programmatically determined through role or properties such that they can be presented to the user by assistive technologies without receiving focus.”

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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>
Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:44
To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>>, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com<mailto:michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>>
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Subject: Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes)
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Thanks David. People can view this at http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/status-changes/guidelines/index.html#status-changes<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fstatus-changes%2Fguidelines%2Findex.html%23status-changes&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C716a488e1ebd4595035708d538c9f5ef%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477362417933872&sdata=8e%2BXezSO0M%2BcrHkI5ptvNoGuBFSgPGlWUkx771gWhsE%3D&reserved=0>

What do people think? Go to CFC or not yet?

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From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>>
Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:37
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Subject: Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes)
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Resent-Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:36

The Pull request is

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com<mailto:michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>> wrote:
Here is the text which seemed to have general agreement on today's call. I believe the intent is to review tomorrow for CFC.

3.2.6 Status Changes

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Status messages
Changes in content that are not changes in context, that provide information to the user on the success or results of an action, on the waiting state of an application, on the progress of a process, or on the existence of errors.


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From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>
To:        WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Date:        2017-11-30 12:26 PM
Subject:        Latest updated version of Purpose of Controls
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On the call we decided to call it “Identify Common Purpose”.



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If there are any changes we need consensus by 11:30 ET tomorrow.



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