- From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:06:03 +0000
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
- CC: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <92EA72CF-8615-447B-A029-1CFDB1E25882@adobe.com>
In seeing the latest language and having a chance to confer with others within Adobe about this, I think that it is fair to say that this is pretty specifically targeted to HTML/ARIA at present. I am happy to support it, but only if we can add “in content implemented using markup languages” to make it read: “In content implemented using markup languages, status messages can be programmatically determined through role or properties such that they can be presented to the user by assistive technologies without receiving focus.” Thanks, AWK Andrew Kirkpatrick Group Product Manager, Accessibility Adobe akirkpat@adobe.com http://twitter.com/awkawk From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:44 To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Subject: Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes) Resent-From: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Resent-Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:42 Thanks David. People can view this at http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/status-changes/guidelines/index.html#status-changes<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fstatus-changes%2Fguidelines%2Findex.html%23status-changes&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7C716a488e1ebd4595035708d538c9f5ef%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477362417933872&sdata=8e%2BXezSO0M%2BcrHkI5ptvNoGuBFSgPGlWUkx771gWhsE%3D&reserved=0> What do people think? Go to CFC or not yet? Thanks, AWK Andrew Kirkpatrick Group Product Manager, Accessibility Adobe akirkpat@adobe.com http://twitter.com/awkawk From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:37 To: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Subject: Re: Latest version of Change of Content (now called Status Changes) Resent-From: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Resent-Date: Friday, December 1, 2017 at 09:36 The Pull request is https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/594<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fpull%2F594&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=qLAkXHdqry9leQP0iodhFGnl2NkhzWrCHICPF4n9GIM%3D&reserved=0> Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. 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I believe the intent is to review tomorrow for CFC. 3.2.6 Status Changes Status messages<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_wcag21_status-2Dchanges_guidelines_index.html-23dfn-2Dstatus-2Dmessage%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3Do0daxkHGHraHNw9i2iAgh1-u02Hps_TQhDkH1KZHuuQ%26m%3D_JaZik7EdU99oLBKj599Q9tbFXbxQA4UCySnC7YpCFQ%26s%3D4ek-aZ_KwHcC6El7mhBBg_K51sYX3MWCGKwtlLY-ICs%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=G68v755eYmSyYfVeHXxyh4%2F2JT6Xc2J9XFvNNBcsuaY%3D&reserved=0> can be programmatically determined<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_wcag21_status-2Dchanges_guidelines_index.html-23dfn-2Dprogrammatically-2Ddeterminable%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3Do0daxkHGHraHNw9i2iAgh1-u02Hps_TQhDkH1KZHuuQ%26m%3D_JaZik7EdU99oLBKj599Q9tbFXbxQA4UCySnC7YpCFQ%26s%3D0tYZw7xDb7yqSJLJEF2xF6UAkbY-_Y50ekLcpRtil4c%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=233qLY6To5ACCZ%2BWuD43pwDz0LymxOmjeWQ2ITEvFwc%3D&reserved=0> through role<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_wcag21_status-2Dchanges_guidelines_index.html-23dfn-2Drole%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3Do0daxkHGHraHNw9i2iAgh1-u02Hps_TQhDkH1KZHuuQ%26m%3D_JaZik7EdU99oLBKj599Q9tbFXbxQA4UCySnC7YpCFQ%26s%3DYf7OkN9Yvrxgi05VKW_0ybgaOWC2QIQ9vb5IvT3-0HI%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=qodR%2B%2FlLSpacOKpki%2Fvrq26B5e3QdV4n35l%2FSrhH5bE%3D&reserved=0>or properties such that they can be presented to the user by assistive technologies<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_wcag21_status-2Dchanges_guidelines_index.html-23dfn-2Dassistive-2Dtechnologies%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3Do0daxkHGHraHNw9i2iAgh1-u02Hps_TQhDkH1KZHuuQ%26m%3D_JaZik7EdU99oLBKj599Q9tbFXbxQA4UCySnC7YpCFQ%26s%3DseJGydJwFexmdBXIpy4rfTX0kv-z9ErZ-2uWHbL2kSc%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=Ul7mk9QMzANs%2FikTNniujNZaMerRzud9oTsfyyjdSZ8%3D&reserved=0> without receiving focus. Status messages Changes in content that are not changes in context, that provide information to the user on the success or results of an action, on the waiting state of an application, on the progress of a process, or on the existence of errors. https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/581<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2Fpull%2F581&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=K%2F5KTv3XGbIv3q%2F9UD7hn5z1m7MT8vUceRV2JzAuB%2B0%3D&reserved=0> Michael Gower IBM Accessibility Research 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2F%3Fq%3D1803%2BDouglas%2BStreet%2C%2BVictoria%2C%2BBC%2B%25C2%25A0V8T%2B5C3%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=Voyi6p%2FvSRWqaz%2Fi4m%2BOs4%2BPnCBykSYvZFx4Z0mdVd8%3D&reserved=0> V8T 5C3<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2F%3Fq%3D1803%2BDouglas%2BStreet%2C%2BVictoria%2C%2BBC%2B%25C2%25A0V8T%2B5C3%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=Voyi6p%2FvSRWqaz%2Fi4m%2BOs4%2BPnCBykSYvZFx4Z0mdVd8%3D&reserved=0> gowerm@ca.ibm.com<mailto:gowerm@ca.ibm.com> voice: (250) 220-1146<tel:(250)%20220-1146> * cel: (250) 661-0098<tel:(250)%20661-0098> * fax: (250) 220-8034<tel:(250)%20220-8034> From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>> To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> Date: 2017-11-30 12:26 PM Subject: Latest updated version of Purpose of Controls ________________________________ On the call we decided to call it “Identify Common Purpose”. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/purpose_of_controls_changes3/guidelines/index.html#identify-common-purpose<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_wcag21_purpose-5Fof-5Fcontrols-5Fchanges3_guidelines_index.html-23identify-2Dcommon-2Dpurpose%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3Djf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg%26r%3D_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc%26m%3DRCoI2lSAt-zLWyNtf85vhQ5bwRHVXLzTGalH_rnlPbg%26s%3Dzn0v8jM8l2iice255fTfcqbGwljQgABKWW8jg2QdtO4%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=6ZT7m5KvySdn1kYI61YMR%2FK9S1%2Bk10hmMUmSFspjilc%3D&reserved=0> If there are any changes we need consensus by 11:30 ET tomorrow. Thanks, AWK Andrew Kirkpatrick Group Product Manager, Accessibility Adobe akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com> http://twitter.com/awkawk<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fawkawk&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce8577b1d0112428d213e08d538c907ea%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636477358434314554&sdata=1uH65tASgvW8xzIaa5R1xAEh3CGJcPte5uG0Yg3iQkE%3D&reserved=0>
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