- From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:21:29 +0000
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <9ECDD81E-E4A1-4626-BEB9-B0B623DA360E@adobe.com>
Thanks David, I started a branch and made some of the changes that we were discussing on the call yesterday: 1. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/guidelines/#accessible-authentication – removed the word “easy” due to testing concerns. 2. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/guidelines/#interruptions-(minimum) - removed “easily” due to testing concerns, and therefore also removed the link to “easily available” and commented out the definition. 3. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/understanding/21/interruptions-minimum.html – moved the content of the definition to this page. This page has not been updated yet, so I created a heading that has the content after it. Additional thoughts and questions that came up for me: 1. We need a definition for “interruption” 2. Should we link to “change of content” in the 2.2.7 Interruptions SC? Thanks, AWK Andrew Kirkpatrick Group Product Manager, Accessibility Adobe akirkpat@adobe.com http://twitter.com/awkawk From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 07:02 To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> Subject: Addressing concern over the words "easy" and "easily available" Resent-From: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> Resent-Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 07:03 There was a request by the chairs to document possible options to address concerns over the testability of the word "Easy" and "easily available" in SCs. Here is where they occur in the standard. The term "easily available" appears in 2.2.7 Interruptions. It has a definition.The term "easy" appears in the first exception for 2.2.6. It does not have a definition, it is followed by a few examples. Options to address ambiguity: 1) remove the terms 2) switch the term "easily available" with something like "prominent" which is not as subjective, and is has greater testability. 3) regardless of whether the term "easily available" or "prominent" is chosen, the definition will probably need work. The term "with as wide a scope as possible" would be very difficult to test for auditors. How would an external auditor know what is possible for the author? I think there needs to be concerted effort put into this if the terms and definition is to stay. It will take bandwidth of seveal members. For the term "easy" in 2.2.6 I've made a pull request to remove that instance as it is not testable and there is no definition. The exception seems to work without it. This analysis is to get the discussion moving. Here are the SC text: ========= 2.2.6 Accessible Authentication First exception: * The authentication process involves basic identifying information to which the user has ***easy*** access, such as name, address, email address and identification or social security number; ========= 2.2.7 Interruptions (Minimum) A mechanism is easily available<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG21%2F%23dfn-easily-available&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=uceHAe4KLNs%2FhUiHJne6dlAruLcfd7EilGwOA4nLGYk%3D&reserved=0> to postpone and suppress interruptions and changes in content, unless they are initiated by the user or involve an emergency. ===== Definition in glossary easily available (or easily available mode or setting) one or more of the following are true: * can be set one time with as wide a scope as possible (such as using the standards of the operating system, from ISO 9241-112<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iso.org%2Fiso%2Fcatalogue_detail.htm%3Fcsnumber%3D64840&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=Ulsz6e%2FvSNreNxyvuxRQjqFMRaKXxIP3%2BPqY%2B2DA6T4%3D&reserved=0> [[ISO_9241-112]] or GPII<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgpii.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=ZKZT11Wyem5r92wr8L7ku6Er8b2LPHWLP3nauUWedF4%3D&reserved=0> [GPII<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG21%2F%23bib-GPII&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=nVNpnKKiBsjWrnELhmV7iskiiUAoOLE8nicGXQeU2wg%3D&reserved=0>] when available); * has the option to save or change the setting, where available interoperably, but also for the scope of the set of web pages; * is reachable from each screen where it may be needed, and the path and the control conforms to all of this document. ============ Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. 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