Re: Addressing concern over the words "easy" and "easily available"

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On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
wrote:

> Thanks David,
> I started a branch and made some of the changes that we were discussing on
> the call yesterday:
>
>
>    1. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/guidelines/#
>    accessible-authentication – removed the word “easy” due to testing
>    concerns.
>    2. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/guidelines/#
>    interruptions-(minimum) - removed “easily” due to testing concerns,
>    and therefore also removed the link to “easily available” and commented out
>    the definition.
>    3. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/understanding/21/
>    interruptions-minimum.html – moved the content of the definition to
>    this page. This page has not been updated yet, so I created a heading that
>    has the content after it.
>
> Additional thoughts and questions that came up for me:
>
>    1. We need a definition for “interruption”
>    2. Should we link to “change of content” in the 2.2.7 Interruptions SC?
>
>
> Thanks,
> AWK
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
> Adobe
>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>
> From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 07:02
> To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Subject: Addressing concern over the words "easy" and "easily available"
> Resent-From: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 07:03
>
> There was a request by the chairs to document possible options to address
> concerns over the testability of the word "Easy" and "easily available" in
> SCs. Here is where they occur in the standard.
>
> The term "easily available" appears in 2.2.7 Interruptions. It has a
> definition.The term "easy" appears in the first exception for 2.2.6. It
> does not have a definition, it is followed by a few examples.
>
> Options to address ambiguity:
> 1) remove the terms
> 2) switch the term "easily available" with something like "prominent"
> which is not as subjective, and is has greater testability.
> 3) regardless of whether the term "easily available" or "prominent" is
> chosen, the definition will probably need work. The term "with as wide a
> scope as possible" would be very difficult to test for auditors. How would
> an external auditor know what is possible for the author?
>
> I think there needs to be concerted effort put into this if the terms and
> definition is to stay. It will take bandwidth of seveal members. For the
> term "easy" in 2.2.6 I've made a pull request to remove that instance as it
> is not testable and there is no definition. The exception seems to work
> without it.
>
> This analysis is to get the discussion moving. Here are the SC text:
>
> =========
>
> 2.2.6 Accessible Authentication
> First exception:
>
>    - The authentication process involves basic identifying information to
>    which the user has ***easy*** access, such as name, address, email address
>    and identification or social security number;
>
>
> =========
> 2.2.7 Interruptions (Minimum)
> A mechanism is easily available
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG21%2F%23dfn-easily-available&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=uceHAe4KLNs%2FhUiHJne6dlAruLcfd7EilGwOA4nLGYk%3D&reserved=0> to
> postpone and suppress interruptions and changes in content, unless they are
> initiated by the user or involve an emergency.
>
> =====
> Definition in glossary
> easily available (or easily available mode or setting)
>
> one or more of the following are true:
>
>    - can be set one time with as wide a scope as possible (such as using
>    the standards of the operating system, from ISO 9241-112
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>    when available);
>    - has the option to save or change the setting, where available
>    interoperably, but also for the scope of the set of web pages;
>    - is reachable from each screen where it may be needed, and the path
>    and the control conforms to all of this document.
>
> ​============​
>
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