- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:30:00 -0400
- To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDb32szimCy6iuDddV+K-E=NQm6EGzeBpFyojSgXcSa5wQ@mail.gmail.com>
Thanks Andrew Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote: > Thanks David, > I started a branch and made some of the changes that we were discussing on > the call yesterday: > > > 1. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/guidelines/# > accessible-authentication – removed the word “easy” due to testing > concerns. > 2. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/guidelines/# > interruptions-(minimum) - removed “easily” due to testing concerns, > and therefore also removed the link to “easily available” and commented out > the definition. > 3. http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/easybranch/understanding/21/ > interruptions-minimum.html – moved the content of the definition to > this page. This page has not been updated yet, so I created a heading that > has the content after it. > > Additional thoughts and questions that came up for me: > > 1. We need a definition for “interruption” > 2. Should we link to “change of content” in the 2.2.7 Interruptions SC? > > > Thanks, > AWK > > Andrew Kirkpatrick > Group Product Manager, Accessibility > Adobe > > akirkpat@adobe.com > http://twitter.com/awkawk > > From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 07:02 > To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > Subject: Addressing concern over the words "easy" and "easily available" > Resent-From: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > Resent-Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 07:03 > > There was a request by the chairs to document possible options to address > concerns over the testability of the word "Easy" and "easily available" in > SCs. Here is where they occur in the standard. > > The term "easily available" appears in 2.2.7 Interruptions. It has a > definition.The term "easy" appears in the first exception for 2.2.6. It > does not have a definition, it is followed by a few examples. > > Options to address ambiguity: > 1) remove the terms > 2) switch the term "easily available" with something like "prominent" > which is not as subjective, and is has greater testability. > 3) regardless of whether the term "easily available" or "prominent" is > chosen, the definition will probably need work. The term "with as wide a > scope as possible" would be very difficult to test for auditors. How would > an external auditor know what is possible for the author? > > I think there needs to be concerted effort put into this if the terms and > definition is to stay. It will take bandwidth of seveal members. For the > term "easy" in 2.2.6 I've made a pull request to remove that instance as it > is not testable and there is no definition. The exception seems to work > without it. > > This analysis is to get the discussion moving. Here are the SC text: > > ========= > > 2.2.6 Accessible Authentication > First exception: > > - The authentication process involves basic identifying information to > which the user has ***easy*** access, such as name, address, email address > and identification or social security number; > > > ========= > 2.2.7 Interruptions (Minimum) > A mechanism is easily available > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG21%2F%23dfn-easily-available&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=uceHAe4KLNs%2FhUiHJne6dlAruLcfd7EilGwOA4nLGYk%3D&reserved=0> to > postpone and suppress interruptions and changes in content, unless they are > initiated by the user or involve an emergency. > > ===== > Definition in glossary > easily available (or easily available mode or setting) > > one or more of the following are true: > > - can be set one time with as wide a scope as possible (such as using > the standards of the operating system, from ISO 9241-112 > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iso.org%2Fiso%2Fcatalogue_detail.htm%3Fcsnumber%3D64840&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=Ulsz6e%2FvSNreNxyvuxRQjqFMRaKXxIP3%2BPqY%2B2DA6T4%3D&reserved=0> [[ISO_9241-112]] > or GPII > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgpii.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=ZKZT11Wyem5r92wr8L7ku6Er8b2LPHWLP3nauUWedF4%3D&reserved=0> > [GPII > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG21%2F%23bib-GPII&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=nVNpnKKiBsjWrnELhmV7iskiiUAoOLE8nicGXQeU2wg%3D&reserved=0>] > when available); > - has the option to save or change the setting, where available > interoperably, but also for the scope of the set of web pages; > - is reachable from each screen where it may be needed, and the path > and the control conforms to all of this document. > > ============ > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 <(613)%20235-4902> > > LinkedIn > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fdavidmacdonald100&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=t2wDNqiLwPBklde%2Bez6kRXGDlWA8BponPq%2F1Fa32eS8%3D&reserved=0> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdavidmacd&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=1tLa8YbHFDhwUZiQT%2FYfWqchASYjuqb5dg21ou%2BRfII%3D&reserved=0> > > GitHub > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FDavidMacDonald&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=xhGLro5%2FebWjE9UJy6VOwVoW8AwiP2H4Ng2jTOF7%2BiM%3D&reserved=0> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.can-adapt.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=sJGcdPA75f9zinFr1hswRy0XbMwwUny6QhFZmkh0ho0%3D&reserved=0> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > * Including those with disabilities* > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidmacd.com%2Fdisclaimer.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca78a963f2e254563c4d508d505978430%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636421070677714132&sdata=RVErxiY0IWmthLTHJvWmxuT1VSNHtA5wgbCfodc1ur0%3D&reserved=0> >
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