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Re: new wording for Undo

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:39:02 -0400
Message-ID: <CAAdDpDavGPXwsdSJxikro=H2ULe5-h1jqngiN=4zQThpQ2m7cg@mail.gmail.com>
To: "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>
Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "W3c-Wai-Gl-Request@W3. Org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I would suggest the introduction of steps. (it could be steps on one page
or across pages).

- When an action is one of a sequence of steps that need to be completed in
order to accomplish an activity, users can return to a previous step to
correct data entry, except when:
...

OR

Undo: When an action is one of a sequence of steps, users can return to the
previous  context and correct data entry without loss of non-dependent data
except when:

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On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:30 AM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote:

> Agreed. Let's limit it to return to the previous  context and  correct
> data entry.
>
> I think that takes us to
> Undo: Users can return to the previous  context and correct data entry
> without loss of non-dependent data except when:
>
> Changes in context definition includes changes in focus. Should we exclude
> that here? or just have a conferment technique  such as:
> changes in focus  can be reversed via the  keyboard navigation
>
>
> All the best
>
> Lisa Seeman
>
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>
>
>
>
> ---- On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:17:53 +0300 *Alastair
> Campbell<acampbell@nomensa.com <acampbell@nomensa.com>>* wrote ----
>
> Hi Lisa,
>
> > I think the use case is inclined in "Users can undo actions, return to
> the previous context "
> > Do you see a problem with that?
>
> The problem I see is that there are three items there:
> - Undo actions
> - return to previous context
> - correct data entry.
>
> Which overlap (e.g. Data-entry is an action, returning to a previous step
> might be an action?), and then it isn't clear what the exceptions apply to.
> The exceptions (as written) mean that all three items are ignored if the
> exception applies, and I don't think that's what you want?
>
> I initially saw the 'undo actions' as a description of what the next two
> are, I didn't realise that was something you were trying to implement
> universally. In which case, I don't understand how that could work, it
> needs qualifying in some way. (What's an action? Clicking a link? Moving a
> slider? Clicking next on a gallery/carousel?)
>
> A general "the user can undo any action" is unreasonable, my mind boggles
> at trying to do that across all widgets on all websites even with the
> exceptions.
>
> The reason I asked about the intent was to work out if the scenario was
> data-entry driven, and the steps aspect was scoping that scenario. I
> thought it was so went in that direction.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Alastair
>
>
>
>
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