- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:35:46 -0500
- To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDZa2hfgUVY2Sqr4HXC8w+mhrV7OGCsgYeP=4cBdkENCyQ@mail.gmail.com>
>Would that make the Animation SC easier to test and the proposal something you can live with? - Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 1 second, and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the webpage. - I would say 2 seconds threshold, so any animation less than 2 seconds passes, allowing most CSS transitions, which are an important design paradigm. - For the field, perhaps saying something like it has >500 CSS PX again that is fairly arbitrary... but at least measurable. - Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 2 seconds, and the movement occupies more than 500 CSS pixels on the webpage Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:20 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > PS I see the definition of "significant" > Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 1 second, > and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the webpage. > > I just wonder if that is the right threshold for triggering... > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 <(613)%20235-4902> > > LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > > GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > > www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > * Including those with disabilities* > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:14 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > >> I guess I identified 3 things that I'd like to explore: >> >> (1) A definition of "Significant" (Is the test case a definition?) >> (2) It is a major requirement on the modern web which is full of >> animation, so we better be ready to defend it, it requires designers to >> change designs, marketing to carve out space for a button on the "above the >> fold" etc... >> (3) minimal research available on triggering characteristics such as >> (length of exposure, speed, provocation, time of day, etc.) >> >> We have several people sharing their experience which is helpful... I >> know someone who shares Nat's experiences,and I've been talking with them >> about our exploration which she thinks would be helpful... but I would >> like more information for such a large requirement... >> >> There may be times when animation is helpful... for instance a long home >> page on a website, and the author wants people to scroll down. The >> automated scroll lets them know they are moving to a place on the same >> page, rather than another page, so it helps distinguish an in page link >> (href=#...) from an regular link (href=http://...) >> >> It will cause many web sites to have to create a gear icon, or another >> button in addition to a "Pause" button on a carousel. One big thing is how >> to create a button that doesn't eat expensive real estate, that is easily >> understood. Is there an icon that people with vestibular disabilities would >> have? DO you say on the button on the $50Million above the fold part of the >> page <button>Stop all animation on this site</button>? >> >> those are my concerns... >> >> >> Cheers, >> David MacDonald >> >> >> >> *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* >> >> Tel: 613.235.4902 <(613)%20235-4902> >> >> LinkedIn >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> >> >> twitter.com/davidmacd >> >> GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> >> >> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> >> >> >> >> * Adapting the web to all users* >> * Including those with disabilities* >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy >> <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Laura Carlson < >> laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am the manager of Issue 18 Animation from interactions [1]. David >>> noted an issue on his spreadsheet that the proposal: >>> >>> "Significant - is hard to test. Big requirement on modern animated >>> web... minimal research available on triggering characteristics such >>> as (length of exposure, speed, provocation, time of day, etc.)" >>> >>> The test in the proposal is: >>> >>> For each example of animation on a page/view check if: >>> >>> 1. The animation is triggered by a user-action, and >>> 2. the animation includes movement that is not essential to the action, >>> and >>> 3. the animation takes more than 1 second and affects more than 1/3 of >>> the webpage view, and >>> 4. there is no way of using the webpage without triggering the animation. >>> >>> If all are true then it fails. >>> >>> Do others think it is hard to test? If so, how could it be made easier? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Kindest regards, >>> Laura >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/18 >>> >>> -- >>> Laura L. Carlson >>> >>> >> >
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