RE: Should we require labels to be always visible?

I agree with Patrick

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Katie Haritos-Shea 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick H. Lauke [] 
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Should we require labels to be always visible?

On 07/01/2017 14:50, Marla Runyan wrote:
> Glenda,
> I totally agree:
>   * A placeholder alone in a form field does not qualify as a label for
>     sighted users because it is not always present. Note: A placeholder,
>     then supplemented by a label (even if the label does not visually
>     appear until after the user focuses on the field) is enough to pass
>     - so long as a label is always programmatically associated.
> BUT - What if the placeholder text is styled to meet contrast specs
> (4.5:1) and is also styled to remain visible until the user begins 
> typing - would placeholder text under these conditions qualify as a 
> visible label when a programmatic label is also present?

No because once something has been entered in the field, there is no more visible text acting as a label present for sighted users who are not using AT.

Contrast is orthogonal to this discussion, as it's a separate issue.

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Received on Saturday, 7 January 2017 17:42:17 UTC