Re: Word count of New SC compared to WCAG 2

For the record David I disagree with how you remember it, but there is no need to go there.



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---- On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 21:55:17 +0200 David MacDonald<david100@sympatico.ca> wrote ---- 

I don't think that narrative is accurate regarding WCAG 2...


WCAG 2 was a consensus document between many stakeholder groups including industry, and it had broad support including support from the Lighthouse foundation for low vision. It did not receive one formal objection. WCAG 2 did the very best with the current state of accessibility at the time. Naturally,  for an update, we want to look at any new developments on the web, and also review any new research on people with disabilities. Some of these gaps in WCAG 2, we can address in 2.1, however some of the proposed SCs seem more like a wish list for future browsers ... which is beyond our scope in 2.1.


I think we have to find the VENN intersection between:


1) ACCESSIBILITY: what will make a significant difference to our stakeholders with disabilities.
2) VIABILITY: what is reasonable to expect of businesses stakeholders.

3) FEASIBILITY: what is mature enough to technically require of authoring stakeholders.



I think WCAG did that well in 2008 and I have confidence we can do that for 2.1 in 2017.



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On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
WCAG 2 left out a lot of people with disabilities. One would expect
 lot of new words to include them.
 
 On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL
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 > Then *how* are we going to expect getting feedback and ideas on testing and
 > techniques on those items that might be ‘At Risk’?
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 > From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
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 > To: Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk>
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 > Subject: Re: Word count of New SC compared to WCAG 2
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 >>>The FPWD does not need to include all the proposed SC. It only needs to
 >>> include those SC that have been reviewed and categorised by the time the
 >>> FPWD is expected. Other SC can be added incrementally to subsequent WD
 >>> as/when.
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 > That makes sense to me.
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 > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk> wrote:
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 > On 03/01/2017 18:06, David MacDonald wrote:
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 > but I'm concerned that the world is watching for WCAG next, and has been
 > waiting over 8 years. Is this the first thing we want to release to
 > these stakeholders in 8 years?
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 > No.
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 > I think we may want to postpone our release date for the FPWD, until we
 > can parse these, figure out how we are going to organize them and make
 > some preliminary vetting.
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 > The FPWD does not need to include all the proposed SC. It only needs to
 > include those SC that have been reviewed and categorised by the time the
 > FPWD is expected. Other SC can be added incrementally to subsequent WD
 > as/when.
 >
 > Please don't consider delaying the timeline. Eight years is far too long as
 > it is - let's not make it worse.
 >
 > Léonie.
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 > @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem
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